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    Quote Originally Posted by noricum View Post
    In retrospective during 70ies Tito should rather have been stricter with nationalists, but at the end this would have changed nothing in the eventual outcome.
    Yes, by also giving other perspectives to the citizens. Nationalists easily lure the minds of some people. It's good if they are given room for insight.

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    Yugoslavia was an ilussion that finished bloody.
    My naive father even declared himself as Yugoslav in census 1981.
    He belived in brotherhood and all that fairytails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    My naive father even declared himself as Yugoslav in census 1981.
    He belived in brotherhood and all that fairytails.
    Why was it a fairy tales, if I may ask you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantic Reptilian View Post
    Why was it a fairy tales, if I may ask you?
    Because it was not sincere brotherhood, especialy from Croatian and Slovenian side.
    These dickheads always look down all other nations.
    They saw Yugoslavia only as way station toward independence.

    Because "brotherhood" finished as horror, with tens of thousands deaths, and millions expelled on all sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Because it was not sincere brotherhood, especialy from Croatian and Slovenian side.
    These dickheads always look down all other nations.
    They saw Yugoslavia only as way station toward independence.

    Because "brotherhood" finished as horror, with tens of thousands deaths, and millions expelled on all sides.
    Oh, ok. I suppose it's naive to believe in brotherhood when these beliefs aren't mutual. I think he only meant well though.

    And I think there was a lot of prejudice against other ethnicities.
    For instance, there weren't many serbs and/or croats in the small town and countryside where my mom is from.
    Being a Serb was looked down on as if it meant being i. e. mentally ill, by other people, which I think is unnecessary.

    However, when she moved to a bigger city, she made a lot of friends, including many Serbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantic Reptilian View Post
    Oh, ok. I suppose it's naive to believe in brotherhood when these beliefs aren't mutual. I think he only meant well though.

    And I think there was a lot of prejudice against other ethnicities.
    For instance, there weren't many serbs and/or croats in the small town and countryside where my mom is from.
    Being a Serb was looked down on as if it meant being i. e. mentally ill, by other people, which I think is unnecessary.

    However, when she moved to a bigger city, she made a lot of friends, including many Serbs.

    Nice to confess.

    Thats how Bosnia end up in war, because of all hate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Nice to confess.
    Well, it's the only reasonable thing to do. Even my mom, who witnessed this, is now saying that it was deeply wrong, because in reality this Serb (when growing up) was a kid just like everyone else.
    And so I think he didn't deserve hate just because he was a child with a different ethnicity.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Thats how Bosnia end up in war, because of all hate.
    I agree. And I try to talk with different people, like you in this case, by listening to their experiences and understand these situations because I feel like it's my responsibility, as a human, even though I wasn't born back in those times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noricum View Post
    In retrospective during 70ies Tito should rather have been stricter with nationalists, but at the end this would have changed nothing in the eventual outcome.
    Tito? Literally Milosevic contributed to it's fall. Tito is the one who kept it together. Albanians in Kosovo and Macedonia were occupied and forced into such a union post Ottoman period. Had it not been for World War II or Tito, Albanians would of been genocided out of that place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Because it was not sincere brotherhood, especialy from Croatian and Slovenian side.
    These dickheads always look down all other nations.
    They saw Yugoslavia only as way station toward independence.

    Because "brotherhood" finished as horror, with tens of thousands deaths, and millions expelled on all sides.
    Croats and Slovenes are different than Serbs, Albanians and Bosniaks. They generally don't hate others (there are exceptions, though) but they also don't want to lick with others. They never accepted violation of their constitutional rights (so called Anti-bureaocratic or "yogurt" revolution) and they also weren't very keen with sharing their money with other, less developed republics. There were also sentiments against immigrants from southern parts of country, especially in Slovenia. Unequal distribution of well paid and ranked jobs in administrative sector, diplomacy, army, police, management etc. was also a problem.

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