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    The ancients regarded religion as nothing more than ancestor worship. The Greek Gods were historical kings who lived and were deified by their own relatives and descendents because of what they had achieved. They were not created to explain the universe.

    Hero worship came first in all of the ancient religions including that of the Phoenicians, Egyptians and Greeks.

    Before writing there were no gods whatsoever since no memory can be passed down beyond living memory without it. Before writing was invented and ancestral kings were made into gods nobody believed in anything except the forces of nature, and in that case they were regarded as nothing more than the physical forces that they are known to be today and markers of time, the weather and the harvest. Nobody is born with any urge whatsoever to worship any kind of god. Religion is something that is brainwashed into you. Animals don't worship gods and neither did pre-historical humans.

    The gods of the Babylonians and Assyrians were the kings of the Sumerians. The gods of the Egyptians were their predynastic rulers. The gods of the Phoenicians were their past kings and those of the Jews, Hurrians, Greeks, Romans and Hindus were the same entities as the gods of the Hyksos period who were Minoan kings who ruled over Palestine, Egypt, Crete and Troy. That is what the historical consensus is and always has been.

    The evidence suggests that there was no religion in the Palaeolithic era at all. The only thing the people of that era feared were the forces of nature. Before people worshiped their own ancestors as gods they only things that the held in any kind of reverence were the forces of nature and the motions of the objects in the celestial sphere. Reverenced doesn't mean worship. You don't worship the Reverend Geralden Grange the Vicar of Dibly.

    All there was an attempt to explain nature by the means of observation of natural phenomena. No tribute, ritual or sacrifices were ever made to these phenomena so it is stated they were no considered religious. Egyptians did not worship the sun. They worshiped Ra after he had lived and died and whose name they associated with the sun.

    Eusebius, Diodorus, Plutarch, Jerome, Apollodorus, Herodotus, Plato and a whole series of historians even Sir Isaac Newton say that the ancient Gods were defied kings, and not once ancient writer or historian says anything different. That was the historical consensus.

    Even the animal Gods of the Americas or Africa are deified ancestors. In India they have animal Gods but we know these Gods are also represented as humans and the same goes for the Egyptian Gods. Since native Americans have names such as Running Bear their Gods were most probably created out of the spirits of deified ancestors bearing the names of these animals or the animals themselves were named after the deified ancestors. If these animal Gods are also meant to talk to humans then it is clear that they originated as humans.

    The Chinese make it clear that all of their gods are deified ancestors. Before these defied kings Chinese texts say nothing of religion. This reinforces what ancient historians has written. Even the word Tao is a Indo-European word. Why do the Chinese used a clearly indo-European word, Daoism or Taoism to refer to their religion? Simple. In approximately 1675 BC when Zeus or as the Hindus called him Deyus Piter became ruler of the world as stated by ancient historians, China became a vassal state of India and the Daioi imposed on China their own choice of Satraps. This is why the Chinese religions of Daoism refers to Dao or Tao as a controlling and ruling force rather than a physical God.

    The ancient Gods were created from deified ancestors by their decedents. The Japanese still do this today. They have the state Gods and their own house Gods. The Japanese worship their own family members, emperors and Gods in exactly the same way as the Greeks, Romans, Phoenicians and Rehab did. They have shrines in their homes to them as did the Romans and the Greeks and the people of the Bible like Rehab. The Japanese made all their emperors into God just like the Romans, the Phoenicians and the Egyptians. The Hindus made their early kings into Gods and their later kings into Heroes just like the Greeks and even had their Gods coming back to earth to take part in wars just like the Greeks.

    Before people decided to worship the spirits of the dead there were no Gods except the forces of nature. Religion is a recent invention. The first Gods were deified ancestors worshiped by the state and before them people believed in the spirits of their own family members and before that they believed in what the thought were the principles of physics.

    Even the Jews were rabid polytheists well into Hellenistic times. The names of over a dozen Phoenicians Gods appear in the Dead Sea Scrolls and seven of them are used to refer to the Gods worshiped by the Jews. How more polytheistic could they be. The Elohim were the Gods allied to El who fought with him against Baal-Shamun. Thou shalt not worship any Gods other than Pharaoh (ie. YHWH) meaning you will not follow or make alliances with the kings of other states that are hostile to Pharaoh.

    Ever hear the one about Adam being made in gods image. The god of the bible was the Pharaoh of Egypt. The book of Jeremiah states this outright. Most probably Amenemhat IV (Adam) was driven from Egypt by Sobeknefru (Eve) at the same time as Agum I (Adam again) was ruling in Babylon and that's where the Adam and Eve being driven out a paradise story came from.

    Take a look on Hinduism. All the Gods are related to Brhama. Why would family relationships even exist unless the Gods were defied ancestors. Look a Gilgamesh who is directly related to the Gods who are part of an extended family as are the Hittite Gods and the Egyptian Gods. All ancient Gods display human type family relationships and all have birth mothers even Christ. Jesus was another defied ancestor to add to the thousands of other defied ancestors who the people of the Roman Empire already worshiped. Christianity took Plato's entire notion of god and superimposed it on the religion of the Jews and a crucified Jew who was defied by his friends in order to make up Christianity.

    All of these Gods had human attributes because they all began as humans. Only the metaphysical God of Plato and the philosophers before and after him was devoid of human characteristics such as anger and jealously and genocidal tendencies and he was not even recognised officially as a God becauses God were ancestors. That is why Socrates was found guilty of inventing new Gods despite the fact that prior philosophers said the same things he did.

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    The only real religion that was ever practiced in Mesopotamia, Syria-Palestine and Europe was that of Tammuz (Greek Potamos) and Ishtar which was based on the cycle of flooding and drying up of the Euphrates or "Potamos".

    ALL religions were derived from the Tammuz/Ishtar cult. Osiris, Adonis, Baal, Melquat, Dionysus and Jesus were all derivatives. The ritual cults not the Gods themselves.

    The Greek got the custom of making their kings or rulers into gods from the Egyptians and Babylonians same as the Phoenicians did.

    The planting seasons in Mesopotamia and Egypt depended on the flooding cycles of the Euphrates and Nile and these could only be predicted by taking constant measurements of water levels and the extent to which the irrigation canals were being used. This was the basis of the Potamos or Tammuz river cult which is the father of ALL religions. No water for irrigation, no cops.

    Without someone to give the orders about water use and conservation and when to plant the crops large scale agriculture would have been impossible. Without someone who had a large enough army to fend of bandits, farming of animals would have been futile.

    It was the KING and his viziers who told the people when to plant their corps and when to harvest them. Without knowledge of the seasons the harvests would have failed. The kings were had their own private armies and knowledge of agriculture a who migrated to set up colonies and introduced agriculture to the people that flocked to live around the cities which they built.

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    There are similarities between Sumerian and Greek, which suggests extensive Greek colonisation of Syro-Palestine and Mesopotamia before the emergence of the Sumerians.

    Sumerian civilization starts at 3.500 BC but the Greek some thousands of years before. Archeological finds in Macedonia of 5250 BC and the island of Yaros proved the existence of alphabet there which is almost 2000 years older than the Sumerian, as well as they have proof that symbols found in Sumerian objects were existed on Greek objects at least 2000 years earlier.

    The meanders, crosses, swastikas, found in Lerna, Sesklo, Diminio (5th millenium)
are older than those found in the Sumerian city Samara in Mesopotamia.
(3rd millenium). There was also found double axes which have their origin in Crete.

    The archaeologist Fr.Schachermeyer says that the pottery of Lerna, Sesko, And Diminio (Greece) which belong at the 5th and the 4th millenium BC is closely related to this of Mesopotamia which is of after 3.500 BC. Something anybody can note just looking at the objects.

    The fact that European languages have more cognates than Mesopotamian ones and Greek has
 the most, is another giveaway. The titles of the Gods of the Sumerians all have names which can be resolved in Greek:

    Sumerian Gods. Greek version
    Enlil ---- Elanios (Zeus)
    Ninki (wife of Enlil) ---- Niki =victory
    Ea (God of earth) ---- Gea = earth

    The Sumerian God of waters was Kamilos (a known name of Hermes in Greece)
 Ea was the Sumerian God of earth and the name comes from the Greek
 name Gea - Gaia ("e" and "ai" sound the same in Greek) and it means earth.

    "Di-wa-na" is not only the root of Diana, but it is also the root of the Sumerian goddess Inanna and the Babylonian Annat (Di-wa-na-ka). ONLY the Greek and specifically Linear-B rendering of the name gives you the common root of all three goddesses names. Just like Io and Luna, Diana, Inanna and Annat were moon goddesses.

    All the names of the Assyro-Babylonian gods can be reduced to Greek. These were all Greek kings and queen titles.

    Gia and Nyx are both corruptions of Wanax meaning King. Gia, is the same name as Io or Ioun, and Luna and is clear the title of a Queen.

    Phoenix is also corruption of the Mycenaean term Wanakas (Wanax/Anax) where W is the same as Digamma or F. ”Alex" which was the Macedonian version of "Anax" also derives from the Mycenaean "Wanax". Wa-na-ka is the Proto-Indo-European root of the number "one".

    Pontus the son of Gia, is nothing more corruption of Pandion, again the common name of a King and can be shortened to Deus or Theos. Ouranus, Chaos, and Chronos are all corruptions of Caranos, yet again the common name of a King, and meaning Head.

    Carleton Coon in his book "The races of Europe" (1939) claims that there was a massive emigration of Mediterranean people to Asia at about the 7th millenium BC. These people arrived in northern and southern Mesopotamia and comprised the pre-Sumerian, Elamitic people of Mesopotamia.

    But first of all the Sumerians themselves said that they came in Mesopotamia through the sea and the most important researcher of the Sumerian civilization
 S.N.Kramer confirms the Mediterranean origin of the Sumerians in his book "History begins at Sumer" where he points out that "the skulls of the Sumerian tombs shows a commixture among the Armenian race and the Mediterranean race, where the second (Mediterranean race) predominates".

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    The fact that ALL the words the so-called "Semites" used as titles of their kings and gods have Indo-European, usually Greek roots is proof enough that Mesopotamia and Syro-Palestine were Indo-European lands.

    It gives further proof that a common Greco-Hittite language was spoken throughout Greece and Anatolia which must have been very similar to proto-Greek. The first cities were not build in Mesopotamia but in Anatolia 15,000 years ago.

    Greek is the mother language of all other Indo-European languages and a 5th millennium BC date for its inception is what is expected. A date this far back also makes Greek the mother language of all other languages in Palestine and Mesopotamian as I have always been saying.

    Since name of the God Tammuz derives from the Greek word Potamos, and the name Assur derive from the Greek word Iasos or Aeson. The word Zeus comes form the Hittite Sis meaning LORD, and also to Living God in Greek, which derives from the Proto-Ionian root which Assur, and Jesus also derive.

    This also explains why Greek words such as ones deriving of House/Oikos (Igloo) and Potamac (river) were present in the Americas long Germanic peoples set foot there before Germanic peoples set foot there.

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    Euimeros mentions that the ancient Greek Minoan Cretans, led by Zeus, had settled Arabia, Persia, the islands of the Indian Ocean, the island of Panchaea, Mesopotamia, where much later they were called Sumerians, up to the Black Sea, where they appeared and settled as Steels. (Halizones). Philhellenic Indians of Calcutta, say: We believe that we came from Crete long before Alexander (at least some of us). Cretan seals have been discovered in our area. Yang Harbor was a very ancient harbor and the story of the real Argonauts must be hidden there. (Economic Postman 6-10-94).

    Could this so-called Indo-European language? and the other? unknown Mediterranean should be called Greco-Creto-Minoan?. The archaeologist S.K.CHATTERGI in the chapter of his famous book History and culture of the Indian people not only admits the great migration from the islands of the Aegean centered on the island of Crete, but insists on the origin of the Indian people from the pre-Hellenic people of the Aegean.

    An Indian archaeologist searching for old Buddhist temples in Pakistan in 1922 found one after the other six seal stones with pictorial reliefs of perfect artistry.

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    After reading parts of your posts, I got the idea that nations could have been created by priests, also I reminded myself of the similarities between japanese Kofun and Egyptian pyramids that both of them do not have writtings even symbols to testify their functions and purposes. They could have been the conduits to higher realms where high priests would be transformed and be returned as gods. However, human forms would still be retained. Think of mesoamerican Viracocha, Kulkukan, white robed gods and bearded, sounds like a priest to me. It was them who gave us the seeds of cocoa, corns, tomatos, potatos which had been vital to human development since then. Also India can boast about a huge temple of Annamalaiyar, one of the largest temple of Hinduism, all major theistic civilizations have temple complexes, guess not just monuments but actuall have served vital functions in the founding of the nations in one or other ways.

    HINDU PRIESTS AND BRAHMINS

    Brahmin People who acts as officials at temples, conducting or assisting on worship, are known as a “pujari” or priests. Their main duty is to act as intermediaries between the worshipers and god. These priests are supposed to be Brahmins — members of the highest ranking caste group that have traditionally been priests. Brahmin wear the sacred thread. They have traditionally been the final judge of purity and caretakers of temples. Only they could enter the inner sanctuaries of temples and invoke the deities there for a puja.
    Mysterious Kofun – Ancient Japanese Tombs Were Aligned Towards The Rising Sun And Goddess Amaterasu – Satellite Images Reveal

    Conny Waters - AncientPages.com - In Japan there are several interesting megalithic tombs that have long interested scientists. Known as Kofun ("ancient grave"), the structures were "constructed between the early 3rd century and the early 7th century AD. The kofun ancient graves (from Kofun period ca 300-710 AD) have been built in various shapes throughout history.

    Mysterious Kofun – Ancient Japanese Tombs Were Aligned Towards The Rising Sun And Goddess Amaterasu – Satellite Images Reveal
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    Conny Waters - AncientPages.com - In Japan there are several interesting megalithic tombs that have long interested scientists. Known as Kofun ("ancient grave"), the structures were "constructed between the early 3rd century and the early 7th century AD. The kofun ancient graves (from Kofun period ca 300-710 AD) have been built in various shapes throughout history.

    Mysterious Kofun - Ancient Japanese Tombs Were Aligned Towards The Rising Sun And Goddess Amaterasu - Satellite Images Reveal

    Daisen Kofun, aerial view. Credit: Ministry of Territory, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism

    The largest keyhole-shaped tomb in Japan - Daisenryo Kofun – is located in the city of Sakai in Osaka Prefecture, Japan.

    These structures can be circular- and square-shaped and their dimensions also vary from several meters to over 400m.

    The most common type of kofun is shaped like a keyhole (a zempo-koen-fun), having one square end and one circular end, when viewed from above." 1

    A research group at the Politecnico di Milano has now analyzed the orientation of ancient Japanese tombs—the so-called Kofun. This study has never been carried out before, due to the very large number of monuments and the fact that access to these areas is usually forbidden. For these reasons, high-res satellite imagery was used. The results show that these tombs are oriented towards the arc of the rising sun, the Goddess Amaterasu that the Japanese emperors linked to the mythical origin of their dynasty.

    The Japanese islands are dotted with hundreds of ancient burial mounds, the largest of which are in the typical shape of a keyhole and are called Kofun. Built between the third and the seventh centuries AD, the most imposing are attributed to the semi-legendary first emperors, while the smaller ones probably belong to court officers and to members of the royal family. Among these, the so-called Daisen Kofun is one of the largest monuments ever built on Earth: it measures 486 meters in length and about 36 in height. It is traditionally attributed to Emperor Nintoku, the sixteenth emperor of Japan.

    The Daisen Kofun belongs to a group of tombs recently inscribed in the UNESCO World Heritage List.There are no written sources on these tombs, and excavations are rare and limited to the smaller ones, since the largest are considered the tombs of the first semi-legendary emperors and, as such, are strictly protected by law.


    Protection also extends to the outside: many monuments are fenced, and it is not allowed to enter the perimeter. For these reasons, it is impossible to obtain accurate measurements of size, height and orientation. Furthermore, their number discourages any on field investigation. It is therefore natural to study them using high-resolution satellite images, which furnish simple but very powerful tools for remote sensing investigations.
    We are also reminded of resurrection of Jesus, as the parallel to the return from the higher realms in godly forms, to found new nations. The highest priests are by virtue progenitor gods, therefore usually human form. The ritual is uniformly ascension into heaven and then just to return again. Also think of the prophecy of Kulkukan and Viracocha`s returning, also our Jesus`s. Gods of the nations or priests of the nations? depends on from which aspect we look at the matter.
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