Islamic scholar asks Christians "Why do you believe that Jesus is God and not "only" a Prophet ?

[Hektor12]

She's peddling the usual variety of gnostic cringe.

Very popular with childless roasties of her type.

She cant just accept the truth as it is, her nation abandoned the religion of their ancestors and welcomed a foreign religion.

Look at this cringe=

The God of Christianity is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ was my deified ancestor and I respect him like all the Greek Gods.

No, pal, Jesus was not Greek. He was a middle eastern jewish man. His god didnt choose a Greek man to talk, as gods of middle east never choose anybody outside of the region.

[catgeorge]

Islamic Scholar is obviously not very intelligent doesn't surprise me due to their barbarous and backwardness.

Father, Son and Holy Spirit are Godly.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

So youre glad that middle eastern christianity destroyed and replaced Roman, Ancient Greek, or Nordic religions and prevented the development of a European culture based on them?

A society based on Roman, Ancient Greek, Slavic, Nordic, etc. religions would have given us a very different morality. We don't need to assume what they'd be like because we know what they were like. Those are not societies I would want to live in.

[Hektor12]

A society based on Roman, Ancient Greek, Slavic, Nordic, etc. religions would have given us a very different morality. We don't need to assume what they'd be like because we know what they were like. Those are not societies I would want to live in.

You would be used to live in them. Like fish live in water and we live in air..

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

How do you explain the backwardness if medieval Christian Europe and the success of secular Europe during and after the enlightenment?

I explain it as exaggerated. For example, we're taught in school that people thought the Earth was flat in 1492. That isn't true. People in the Middle Ages weren't as ignorant as we are often led to believe.

The Englightenment is just a progression of thought. There are stepping stones to civilization. But are we going to deny that European morality is based on Christianity?

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

You would be used to live in them. Like fish live in water and we live in air..

Yes but objectively speaking it would suck. If I grew up in Saudi Arabia, I'm sure I'd be a very different person with different views. I may even approve of people being killed for adultery. Objectively speaking that society sucks when compared to other societies.

[Token]

The Englightenment is just a progression of thought. There are stepping stones to civilization. But are we going to deny that European morality is based on Christianity?

What if we invert cause and effect here, and say that the adoption of Christianity was a product of the decadence of the ancient European morality? That was the thesis of Nietzsche, among others. I think your line of thinking tends to fall on the trap of idealism (the idea that ideas change the way people act on material life, and not the contrary).

[Hektor12]

Yes but objectively speaking it would suck. If I grew up in Saudi Arabia, I'm sure I'd be a very different person with different views. I may even approve of people being killed for adultery. Objectively speaking that society sucks when compared to other societies.

But we dont know how that would evolve. Current christianity isnt day 1 christianity either.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

What if we invert cause and effect here, and say that the adoption of Christianity was a product of the decadence of the ancient European morality? That was the thesis of Nietzsche, among others.

Whether you accept that or not the fact is Western Europe is what it is and that is a dominant force in the world for centuries (obviously there are many factors that helped; the importance of geography, etc.) and at the least Christian morality didn't hamper Western Europe's role as the dominant powers in the world.

I think your line of thinking tends to fall on the trap of idealism (the idea that ideas change the way people act on material life, and not the contrary).

People are always looking for something to believe in. The question is what are you going to fill that void with?

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

But we dont know how that would evolve. Current christianity isnt day 1 christianity either.

The core values haven't changed.

What are the core values of Roman, Ancient Greek, Nordic, etc. religions? You would get a version of it.