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    What do you think about Zelensky (7th Oct 2022) considering the following?

    Since the New York Times article its pretty clear that the Ukrainian gouverment is involved in targeting and killing selected civilians on the Russian side. This is violating the Hague convention and is a war crime, i. e. a murder in this case.

    Additionally he asked the Nato to make a nuclear first strike on Russia, i. e. to start a full scale WW III.

    Zelensky is not just some irrelevant columnist in a magazin, but the president of the Ukraine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    What do you think about Zelensky (7th Oct 2022) considering the following?

    Since the New York Times article its pretty clear that the Ukrainian gouverment is involved in targeting and killing selected civilians on the Russian side. This is violating the Hague convention and is a war crime, i. e. a murder in this case.

    Additionally he asked the Nato to make a nuclear first strike on Russia, i. e. to start a full scale WW III.

    Zelensky is not just some irrelevant columnist in a magazin, but the president of the Ukraine.
    His speech in Munich before the war considering leaving the Budapest treaty and some threatnings related to renewing the nuclear weapon programme were directly provocative for Putin and crew. He says a lot of shit like he's still working as comedian, not a president of his banana state. I guess if he would be in same anti-American position he would be already eliminated by some drone attack by the US.

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    Is it possible to count me as Ukraine supporter i dont know but some people would count because im not pro-Russian so i should tell.

    My opinion is very simple. Zelensky=Jew He shouldnt be ant high-rank person in Ukraine first and foremost. Otherwise, i dont think Ukraine is very innocent and clean in this war or in background. They even sent sea mines to Bosphorus in hope of triggering a reaction from NATO.

    But my support for normal Ukrainians, those suffering and their life destroyed, stands solid.

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    I don't support the media-driven bandwagon solidarity with the Ukraine, and I don't like that the Ukraine is a military partner with the genocidal regime of Azerbaijan. Having said that, I also don't like the irony of Putin's hypocrisy: He refused to help Armenia, during the 2020 War, because the Armenian Artsakh Stronghold isn't recognized by the UN; on the other hand, he is perfectly OK with acquiring areas within the boundaries of UN recognized Ukraine, based upon the same logic of self-determination. Basically, I don't support either side, in the conflict; I just want to see the fighting end there.

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    Not surprising. Ukraine is such an unter mafia state, led by nasty Jewish loudmouth warmonger. And than there is Russia.

    As the war is progressing I'm feeling more and more disgust towards both warring sides (their elites to be precise)

    Can't feel any sympathy whatsoever for either, except for their soldiers fighting a meaningless war.

    May the war end as soon as possible and both Zelensky and Putin should hang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Not surprising. Ukraine is such an unter mafia state, led by nasty Jewish loudmouth warmonger. And than there is Russia.

    As the war is progressing I'm feeling more and more disgust towards both warring sides (their elites to be precise)

    Can't feel any sympathy whatsoever for either, except for their soldiers fighting a meaningless war.

    May the war end as soon as possible and both Zelensky and Putin should hang.
    Russian original intention was nothing wrong from the beginning. Wrong is how everything was done, lots of steps. Having a Yiddo warmonger some 600 km from Moscow bragging about nuclear weapons at international forums while constantly shelling the LDNR after 8 years of ignoring Minsk treaties, leads to the logical consequences, it was expected.
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    Ukraine cannot win=Putin cannot lose=Biden aims a cruise=There's no might-have-been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    His speech in Munich before the war considering leaving the Budapest treaty and some threatnings related to renewing the nuclear weapon programme were directly provocative for Putin and crew. He says a lot of shit like he's still working as comedian, not a president of his banana state. I guess if he would be in same anti-American position he would be already eliminated by some drone attack by the US.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    Russian intention are nothing wrong from the beginning. Wrong is how everything was done, lots of steps. Having a Yiddo warmonger some 600 km from Moscow bragging about nuclear weapons at international forums while constantly shelling the LDNR after 8 years of ignoring Minsk treaties, leads to the logical consequences, it was expected.
    You dumb obnoxious monkey, you had no bad intention, but you destroyed a country and made millions of people refugees. Sure, the US lit a fire with the Ukrainian elections years ago, that's the US fault, but there is no excuse for an invasion. What Russia did then was finance separatists groups and escalations in the Eastern Ukraine (I won't talk about Crimea, perhaps it should be Russian territory) yet you have the audicity to talk about what Zelensky did before the invasion. You are no match for the US geopolitical moves. Russia is so predictable that the US can chew you, and then spit you. I think that the job of all major powers in this world is to spread their influence. Nothing bad or good in that. Germany, Japan, the USA, France, the UK etc do it using their intelligence, they take, but they also give. But Russia... knows only to spread influece with wars and invasions. Couldn't you wait another elections, overthrow Zelensky like the US overthrew your puppet? You know, play the game like others do. Apparently you are not capable to do that. Now we basically have two destroyed countries in Europe, stronger US foothold in Europe, struggling economies of Europe and isolated Russia which will soon start sinking financially and maybe also have inevitable civil wars. Played like a piano. As for Zelensky, sure, many of his statements are not rational, but I would see you in his place or if your country becomes invaded by bigger power.

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    I was anti-Zelensky from day one since a Jew can't be trusted in government. But at the end of the day he's the democratically elected leader of Ukraine, the Ukrainians can choose to keep or remove him as they wish; it's their country - same for Russians with Putin in theory (even though Russia and their supporters don't have any respect for Ukrainian self-determination).

    If he's targeted and killed civilians in Ukraine then he's murdered his own citizens, not Russians per se, and should be made to answer for that. But even if that's true, one should have some perspective - the onus for the vast majority of civilian deaths in this war is on Russia and Putin, as the invaders.
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