Stats regarding unemployment, employment rates, economic inactivity and occupation per ethnic group

[Tooting Carmen]

Taken from the June 2021-June 2022 Annual Population Survey.

Unemployment rates per ethnic group

Aged 16+ OVERALL. 3.8%
Aged 16+ White (UK born). 3.3%
Aged 16+ White (foreign born). 3.2%
Aged 16+ ethnic minority (UK born). 7%
Aged 16+ ethnic minority (foreign born). 6.4%
16+ unemployment rate - White. 3.3%
16+ unemployment rate - ethnic minority. 6.6%
16+ unemployment rate - Mixed-race. 7.1%
16+ unemployment rate - Indian. 4%
16+ unemployment rate - Pakistani/Bangladeshi. 8.7%
16+ unemployment rate - Black. 8.1%
16+ unemployment rate - other ethnic groups. 6%

Employment rates per ethnic group

Employment rate - ages 16-64 OVERALL. 75.4%
Employment rate - ages 16-64 White (UK born). 75.9%
Employment rate - ages 16-64 White (foreign born). 82%
Employment rate - ages 16-64 ethnic minority (UK born). 67.6%
Employment rate - ages 16-64 ethnic minority (foreign born). 69.8%
16-64 employment rate - White. 76.5%
16-64 employment rate - ethnic minority. 69%
16-64 employment rate - Mixed-race. 67.6%
16-64 employment rate - Indian. 78%
16-64 employment rate - Pakistani/Bangladeshi. 59.6%
16-64 employment rate - Black. 68%
16-64 employment rate - other ethnic groups. 69.9%

Economic inactivity rates per ethnic group (Common reasons for being economically inactive include retirement, long-term sickness or disability, studying, looking after home or family, asylum-seeking).

% ages 16-64 who are economically inactive OVERALL. 21.6%
Economic inactivity rate - ages 16-64 White (UK born). 21.4%
Economic inactivity rate - ages 16-64 White (foreign born). 15.3%
Economic inactivity rate - aged 16-64 ethnic minority (UK born). 27.4%
Economic inactivity rate - aged 16-64 ethnic minority (foreign born). 25.4%
% of Whites ages 16-64 who are economically inactive. 20.8%
% of ethnic minority ages 16-64 who are economically inactive. 26.1%
% of Mixed-race people ages 16-64 who are economically inactive. 27.2%
% of Indians of aged 16-64 who are economically inactive. 18.9%
% of Pakistanis/Bangladeshis ages 16-64 who are economically inactive. 34.6%
% of Blacks ages 16-64 who are economically inactive. 25.7%
% of other ethnic groups ages 16-64 who are economically inactive. 25.5%

Proportions of people in Professional, Managerial and Technical occupations per ethnic group

% of ALL in employment in above occupations. 51%
% of 16+ Whites in employment in above occupations. 51%
% of 16+ ethnic minorities in employment in above occupations. 51.7%
% of 16+ mixed-race people in employment in above occupations. 51.5%
% of 16+ Indians in employment in above occupations. 64.6%
% of 16+ Pakistanis/Bangladeshis in employment in above occupations. 42.6%
% of 16+ Blacks in employment in above occupations. 44.4%
% of 16+ other ethnic groups in employment in above occupations. 53.9%

[RogueState]

Could you please provide us the breakdown by race AND gender together ?

I am pretty sure the Pakistani/Bangladeshi relatively higher unemployment (and low employment) rate is skewed because of relatively low female labor participation

[RogueState]

Could you please provide us the breakdown by race AND gender together ?

I am pretty sure the Pakistani/Bangladeshi relatively higher unemployment (and low employment) rate is skewed because of relatively low female labor participation

[Tooting Carmen]

Could you please provide us the breakdown by race AND gender together ?

I am pretty sure the Pakistani/Bangladeshi relatively higher unemployment (and low employment) rate is skewed because of relatively low female labor participation

It is, but the stats show that even those who wish to work have higher rates of unemployment too. All the same, here are the employment rates by ethnic group and gender:

White males 16-64 79.4%
Ethnic minority males 16-64 76.5%
White females 16-64 73.6%
Ethnic minority females 16-64 62.1%
Mixed-race males 16-64 68.7%
Indian males 16-64 84.8%
Pakistani/Bangladeshi males 16-64 75.7%
Black males 16-64 73.7%
Other ethnic group males 16-64 75.5%
Mixed-race females 16-64 66.6%
Indian females 16-64 70.7%
Pakistani/Bangladeshi females 16-64 43.1%
Black females 16-64 64.1%
Other ethnic group females 16-64 64.9%

[RogueState]

As I expected, the female participation in the workforce among Pakistani/Bangladeshi is significantly lower than the rest (the only group below 50%) and drags the average rate down, and explains also the high unemployment

I am pretty sure, if we can go deeper into the data analysis, it is even lower among Pakistani than among Bangladeshi

Not surprising since Pakistani culture combines Islam and one of the most patriarchal culture in the world, which are two "forces" against female emancipation and workforce participation (I think it's relatively less among Bangladeshi)

[Tooting Carmen]

As I expected, the female participation in the workforce among Pakistani/Bangladeshi is significantly lower than the rest (the only group below 50%) and drags the average rate down, and explains also the high unemployment

I am pretty sure, if we can go deeper into the data analysis, it is even lower among Pakistani than among Bangladeshi

Not surprising since Pakistani culture combines Islam and one of the most patriarchal culture in the world, which are two "forces" against female emancipation and workforce participation (I think it's relatively less among Bangladeshi)

The unemployment rate measures those actively seeking work but unable to find it, as distinct from economic inactivity when you are 'deliberately' out of work. But yes, Pakistan is definitely one of the least women-friendly countries on Earth (all the more astounding they managed to produce such a formidable female PM in the form of Benazir Bhutto, albeit at least initially much of her support base came from the legacy of her father).

[Tooting Carmen]

Btw, yes I know that France forbids collecting ethnic data, but I would be interested in seeing employment stats from France broken down at least by country of birth/nationality. My impression is that France's ethnic minority groups are far more uniformly poor/working-class than are Britain's.

[Tooting Carmen]

Two intriguing things come up here: (1) although the ethnic minority unemployment rate is twice that of White people, of those who are in work, slightly more are in Professional, Managerial and Technical occupations than are Whites. (2) Indians (many if not most, in fact, being East African Asians) are by some distance the most successful major ethnic minority group, both in terms of employment rates and in terms of the jobs they do get - in both aspects they exceed Whites considerably.

[RogueState]

Btw, yes I know that France forbids collecting ethnic data, but I would be interested in seeing employment stats from France broken down at least by country of birth/nationality. My impression is that France's ethnic minority groups are far more uniformly poor/working-class than are Britain's.

Officially there is no "ethnic" data, but many social scientists find "workarounds" to assess the social situations of "ethnic French" and French of foreign background

Often controversial results, like the famous book of French sociologist Hugues Lagrange "Le déni des cultures" (The deny of cultures) : https://www.sciencespo.fr/osc/en/node/1283.html - https://www.sciencespo.fr/osc/fr/con...ultures-0.html

From a general point of view, we find similar patterns than all Western countries regarding the economic sociology :
- Whites on the top, although the French society, like in the UK, is also well stratified and has "subcultures" (preppy-bourgeoisie/traditional Catholic aristocrats ~ "chavs", "white trash")
- Eastern European and Portuguese men overrepresented in construction (contractors) and women in cleaning/nursery
- East an South Asians performing well at school/higher education, with following pattern : FOB parents not speaking well the language, working in their own small business (restaurants) and kids getting STEM/medicine degrees and joining directly the upper-middle class jobs (international companies)
- Maghrebians either join the low-class working class jobs (but no manual or trade jobs, they are not "handy" like Eastern Europeans) often as taxi, delivery people (up to the point that the joke is "What is an Arab in a suit ? An UBER driver"), they are still underrepresented in higher education, especially males. Females integrated better higher education relatively to men OR either completely out of the job market (but it's more a generational issue)
- SSA also work rather in low-class jobs, lowest level of entrepreneurship (just wage workers) and overrepresented in unemployment. Often in public jobs or in nursery (for women). We do can distinguish a relatively more integrated in the workforce SSA from Gulf of Guinea, while those from Senegambia/Sahel (Senegal-Mali-Guinea) are following more the Maghrebian pattern
- Turks interestingly are underrepresented in higher education or intellectual jobs and in wage workforce, they are very "Asian" in that sense (living in autarky, in parallel society, communautarian) : preferring working as small entrepreneurs (construction, restaurants/cafés, groceries, car dealers/mechanics, ...), within family business or within the "community"

[Tooting Carmen]

Officially there is no "ethnic" data, but many social scientists find "workarounds" to assess the social situations of "ethnic French" and French of foreign background

Often controversial results, like the famous book of French sociologist Hugues Lagrange "Le déni des cultures" (The deny of cultures) : https://www.sciencespo.fr/osc/en/node/1283.html - https://www.sciencespo.fr/osc/fr/con...ultures-0.html

From a general point of view, we find similar patterns than all Western countries regarding the economic sociology :
- Whites on the top, although the French society, like in the UK, is also well stratified and has "subcultures" (preppy-bourgeoisie/traditional Catholic aristocrats ~ "chavs", "white trash")
- Eastern European and Portuguese men overrepresented in construction (contractors) and women in cleaning/nursery
- East an South Asians performing well at school/higher education, with following pattern : FOB parents not speaking well the language, working in their own small business (restaurants) and kids getting STEM/medicine degrees and joining directly the upper-middle class jobs (international companies)
- Maghrebians either join the low-class working class jobs (but no manual or trade jobs, they are not "handy" like Eastern Europeans) often as taxi, delivery people (up to the point that the joke is "What is an Arab in a suit ? An UBER driver"), they are still underrepresented in higher education, especially males. Females integrated better higher education relatively to men OR either completely out of the job market (but it's more a generational issue)
- SSA also work rather in low-class jobs, lowest level of entrepreneurship (just wage workers) and overrepresented in unemployment. Often in public jobs or in nursery (for women). We do can distinguish a relatively more integrated in the workforce SSA from Gulf of Guinea, while those from Senegambia/Sahel (Senegal-Mali-Guinea) are following more the Maghrebian pattern
- Turks interestingly are underrepresented in higher education or intellectual jobs and in wage workforce, they are very "Asian" in that sense (living in autarky, in parallel society, communautarian) : preferring working as small entrepreneurs (construction, restaurants/cafés, groceries, car dealers/mechanics, ...), within family business or within the "community"

I still maintain that, for various reasons, France's immigrant groups tend to be poorer than Britain's. Just looking at the statistics I posted: even though Blacks, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis in particular have higher rates of unemployment and lower-than-average proportions in middle-class occupations, the percentage differences between even them and Whites are somewhat less dramatic than stereotypes and assumptions would suggest. What's more, is it possible to envisage France having such a multiracial cabinet as the British ones have been in recent years (and under Tory governments, no less)?