Germany plans to legalise recreational cannabis

**Aldaris** · 10-26-2022, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Atlantic Reptilian

I don't want to get conspiratorial but I wonder if there is any hidden agenda behind this?

More people neurologically satisfied by artificial means (drugs) makes them not complain (dopamine = their brain is happy).

Yeah, you probably are getting somewhat conspiratorial, we're not living in the world of 1984, but there is a grain of truth. There certainly is a lot of shady business between the big pharma and parts of the government, I'm not so naive to think there isn't. But I don't buy the MKUltra 2.0 scenario either.

**Atlantic Reptilian** · 10-26-2022, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Dragoon

make people passive and turn into feminized men?

Well, indirectly they could be feminized by being physically passive i. e. their muscles not getting enough stimulation to produce more HGH. But to be critical the person has to be very low testosterone to begin with, although all people will see somewhat of a boost in testosterone and HGH if they get more physically active.

If you take a look at (very) masculinized men you will realize that they always have well developed gluteus maximus.

**Atlantic Reptilian** · 10-26-2022, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Aldaris

Yeah, you probably are getting somewhat conspiratorial, we're not living in the world of 1984, but there is a grain of truth. There certainly is a lot of shady business between the big pharma and parts of the government, I'm not so naive to think there isn't. But I don't buy the MKUltra 2.0 scenario either.

I wasn't thinking of MK Ultra, just saying that it's easier to do shady things if they population is satisfied with what they've got and won't be bothered much by what powerful people do...

**Atlantic Reptilian** · 10-26-2022, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Jingle Bell

Yeah, in Brazil is prty comum see many teens and youngs (generally 13 - 20 years old) who uses weed

Too young. That's sad...

**Aldaris** · 10-26-2022, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Insuperable

It's same everywhere. But you know how people are. You give them a finger they will eventually take a hand.
It's better not to make that step.

I'm not advocating for making the step and I don't really care about how it will end up. But still, I would refrain from a slippery slope kind of thinking. The Netherlands gave it's people a finger and they are doing just fine without taking the hand.

**Jingle Bell** · 10-26-2022, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Atlantic Reptilian

Too young. That's sad...

Yeah, the worst thing is that the police don't know anything, they hide it very well, and some knows they use it but if someone reports it is killed, even because this marijuana comes from trafficking even so if someone reports it ends up reporting the traffic too and that's it enough reason to kill you. . . at the door where I study I've seen teenagers several times with bottles of vodka and "pitu" (a very strong alcoholic drink) and because it's an expensive school they have a lot of money and that helps them to use and abuse it, I have a lot pity because they are not to blame, they influenced them to do that, they were taught that drinking was alleged, that using drugs was cool, that smoking vape attracts women and so on. . .poor boys, lost their lives and hopes for a stupid plant

**~~Cristiano viejo~~** · 10-26-2022, 06:54 PM

Drug is for losers.

**Jingle Bell** · 10-26-2022, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo

Drug is for losers.

Well said
People who use drugs use them to forget about reality, but that only adds to their already complicated lives.
It must be horrible, I wouldn't wish it even on my worst enemy.

**Aldaris** · 10-26-2022, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Atlantic Reptilian

I wasn't thinking of MK Ultra, just saying that it's easier to do shady things if they population is satisfied with what they've got and won't be bothered much by what powerful people do...

The MKUltra point was just an analogy. :-) Powerful people are like anybody else. They are diverse and compete with each other just like the rest. If some of them has some shit on another one, then the general public will either know soon enough or there will be some kind of blackmailing. People in power are not some kind of a unified cult, they are in a constant competition between themselves. Politics is a business like any other.

**~~Victor~~** · 10-26-2022, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Atlantic Reptilian

They should not do such a thing.

Sure, it's every persons right to do whatever they want with their body, and in the end no one can stop their will, but playing with such substances will put you into a different state, and your brain will based on this dynamic.

Not even some doctors know how to use medicine and how it impacts the body...

When I used to smoke pot, I didn't need it to be legalized to get it. Legalizing will make it even more available and there's nothing good about it. For someone it being illegal is a limit and that's good.