Ireland can no longer guarantee accommodation to Ukrainian refugees

**Tooting Carmen** · 10-29-2022, 10:26 PM

Memo to the race obsessives in this forum: the issue is about whether public services and accommodation can cope above all else, regardless of the race or nation of the refugees.

**Tooting Carmen** · 10-29-2022, 10:54 PM

**Grace O'Malley** · 10-30-2022, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen

Memo to the race obsessives in this forum: the issue is about whether public services and accommodation can cope above all else, regardless of the race or nation of the refugees.

There is a shortage of housing so there is no way they can deal with too many refugees. Also 56,000 Ukrainians is the largest intake in a short period of time that Ireland has ever had and they are still getting refugees from the usual places. This issue was obvious to people. They are not able to deal with a large influx and the Irish Government said they will not put a cap on the amount of Ukrainians coming in to Ireland with is ridiculous and people have been mentioning this since the beginning. Not sure why they have let things get to this? Also why can't they tell the EU they can't take any more until things improve? These questions are rhetorical as no one can really answer them.

**~~JamesBond007~~** · 10-30-2022, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes

It's not surprising. People think of their own first and refugees are a financial burden. You can't expect people to be so altruistic towards foreigners when every nation has their own people in need.

The harsh reality of the cost behind taking care of asylum seekers > people's good intentions

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Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes

It's easier to convince people to be compassionate towards others who look similar to them but then people realize, "Oh, this is costly" and "Oh, these people who look similar to me speak a funny language and aren't like me."

Eastern European 'untermensch' ? LULZ

**Grace O'Malley** · 11-03-2022, 02:09 PM

Just wondering as time goes on how this is going to pan out.

Killarney will have to face the reality of whether it is going to continue as a major tourist centre or become a direct provision and refugee centre because of the numbers now in tourist accommodation, a council meeting has been told.

With a population of 10,360, Killarney is now accommodating 3,200 refugees and asylum seekers, the Killarney Municipal Meeting was told.

The meeting heard that the goodwill that was in Killarney earlier towards refugees was no longer there because of the numbers arriving and the pressure on health, education and other services as well as fears for the future of the town's main industry - tourism.

https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2022...uncil-meeting/

It's difficult for some of the small population areas to absorb so many people especially with Killarney being a tourist area.

2,500 REFUGEES PACK KILLARNEY: ADDING 25% TO NUMBER LIVING IN TOWN
A local councillor and medical practitioners in Killarney say that the town has “done enough” after the number of Ukrainian refugees and other migrants claiming asylum in the town grew to more than 2,500.

Killarney has a population of 10,363 according to the most recent Census. The new arrivals, with hundreds arriving in the past week alone, mean that the population of the town has grown by 25% in just over 6 months.

Last week, Minister O’Gorman beat a hasty retreat from part of his decision to move 135 Ukrainian women and children who had been staying in the Hotel Killarney since last March to Mayo to make room for 192 men who had come from Libya, North Africa and Georgia.

However, while the Ukrainians remained in Killarney, the men claiming to be asylum seekers were also placed in the town.

https://gript.ie/2500-refugees-pack-...iving-in-town/

**billErobreren** · 11-03-2022, 03:02 PM

There's like 10 Ukrainians for every Irishman, bound to happen, it was daft of them to even take as many as they did. It's like they forget how small their numbers are and how much room they have to spare.