Belgium becoming a narco-State

**Dandelion** · 01-10-2023, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

Belgium is indeed one of the major trafficking hubs in Europe for cocaine (accounted for the highest proportion of cocaine seizures with 45 tonnes in 2019, followed by Spain with 41 tonnes) but it is not one of the main user markets.

By the way, often people from strict Protestant families snort coke. Their younger generations do. Of course far from all of them, luckily. A minority even, but it's very common nonetheless in that culture.

**Blondie** · 01-10-2023, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Florin Radu

Then why does "African Belgium" have income almost twice twice that of Spain?

Who cares? Money is not everything, if you import people from the third world, you become a third world nation, its easy. Yepp now Belgien is rich, but we will see what will happens 20-30 years later. Few years ago i have read an economic analysis of Sweden and according to it, Sweden and Kazakhstan will be on same level in 2050.

**Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas** · 01-10-2023, 10:58 AM

I doubt there is any correlation with religious upbringing. There is also countries who are predominantly Catholic or Orthodox with some of the worst drug use death rates. The country that stands out the most however is the USA, which has more than twice as many as Canada, the second country in the world with the most deaths due to drug abuse.

**Dandelion** · 01-10-2023, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Blondie

Who cares? Money is not everything, if you import people from the third world, you become a third world nation, its easy. Yepp now Belgien is rich, but we will see what will happens 20-30 years later. Few years ago i have read an economic analysis of Sweden and according to it, Sweden and Kazakhstan will be on same level in 2050.

Integrity is everything, indeed.

**Dandelion** · 01-10-2023, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

I doubt there is any correlation with religious upbringing. There is also countries who are predominantly Catholic or Orthodox with some of the worst drug use death rates. The country that stands out the most however is the USA, which has more than twice as many as Canada, the second country in the world with the most deaths due to drug abuse.

I agree. It's just a sociological problem within a group that shunned television, but couldn't keep the internet out and is getting exposed to the ugliness of the wide world overnight. Too much at once. In their communities often more than 25% is younger than 20 of age too. A minor percentile of the cocaine snorters in the end.

I have known a person in management who quickly went downhill while going to the toilet for his cocaine shot in one of my former jobs. A very erratic guy who went over his limits and eventually broke.

**~~Cristiano viejo~~** · 01-10-2023, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by PaganPoet

That's what you get when drugs should be illegal.
It should be legalized and regulated. Thinking illegality keeps it under control is downward stupid.

Drug traffickers should be killed, and drug addicters at least beaten as fuck.

Legalizing the drugs would be one of the most stupid ideas the human being would have had in all the history.

**PaganPoet** · 01-10-2023, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo

Drug traffickers should be killed, and drug addicters at least beaten as fuck.

Legalizing the drugs would be one of the most stupid ideas the human being would have had in all the history.

You mean, just like keeping alcohol legal?

**SouthDutch7991** · 01-10-2023, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by PaganPoet

That's what you get when drugs should be illegal.
It should be legalized and regulated. Thinking illegality keeps it under control is downward stupid.

It should be illegal not to control it, but because it is wrong. The law has become so soft in the West in recent years, we don't even execute the most disgusting criminals anymore when two hundred years ago they would be hanged publicly.

**PaganPoet** · 01-10-2023, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by SouthDutch7991

It should be illegal not to control it, but because it is wrong. The law has become so soft in the West in recent years, we don't even execute the most disgusting criminals anymore when two hundred years ago they would be hanged publicly.

You can't compare drug trade and use with other crimes like theft and worse. That doesn't make any sense. We're not doing that with alcohol either; some have tried but also that fails.
The repression causes more misery than drugs itself, if you think finding it wrong is enough to cause even more miserie, you will never get the result you wanted.

**SouthDutch7991** · 01-10-2023, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by PaganPoet

You can't compare drug trade and use with other crimes like theft and worse. That doesn't make any sense. We're not doing that with alcohol either; some have tried but also that fails.
The repression causes more misery than drugs itself, if you think finding it wrong is enough to cause even more miserie, you will never get the result you wanted.

I don't care lol.