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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    This did not exist in the Habsburg Empire after 1853.
    Sure, AH - 1853, Russia - 1860, serfdom was abolished back then. Still, freedoms and liberalism is something different back then, not same as now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nausevar View Post
    Don't you think that the quality of governance is a primary factor on the population in the choice of whether to revolt or not? German and Austrian rule was more tolerable than Russian.
    An important factor yet it guarantees nothing. A recent example is Ukraine where the governance of Yanukovich was by any merit better than that of Zelensky. Yet the revolt struck exactly Yanukovich's government.
    Do what you should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nausevar View Post
    Why do you use 3rd person when referring to Poles?
    Because I'm not a traitor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nausevar View Post
    German and Austrian rule was more tolerable than Russian.
    Really? Fuck off you fool. You're commenting on things you don't know 0.1% of.

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    Well, you will never see Putin get slapped like a bitch like this globalist.

    “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph. 6:12

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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Well, you will never see Putin get slapped like a bitch like this globalist.
    He can't get slapped because he's avoided meeting his "electorate" for years. He's too smart for that.
    Do what you should.

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    Russia could of been a part of the western world had Vladimir the Great picked Catholicism over Orthodox Christianity. In my opinion it has been the main divider between Russia and France/Germany/England throughout history. I mean, look at Slovakia or Poland, this is what Russia could of been but on a larger scale. A united Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaSentinelle View Post
    Russia could of been a part of the western world had Vladimir the Great picked Catholicism over Orthodox Christianity. In my opinion it has been the main divider between Russia and France/Germany/England throughout history. I mean, look at Slovakia or Poland, this is what Russia could of been but on a larger scale. A united Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok.
    Poland and Slovakia are not western countries. Catholicism would not make Russia western.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Poland and Slovakia are not western countries. Catholicism would not make Russia western.
    How do you determine whether a country/nation is western or not? What is your criteria? What language family they belong to? What part of the world they live in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaSentinelle View Post
    Russia could of been a part of the western world had Vladimir the Great picked Catholicism over Orthodox Christianity. In my opinion it has been the main divider between Russia and France/Germany/England throughout history. I mean, look at Slovakia or Poland, this is what Russia could of been but on a larger scale. A united Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok.
    You have poor historical knowledges which make your statement nonsense, there was no separate Catholic and Orthodox Churches back in 988 A.D. The Great Schism when bishop of Rome made himself a head of schismatic Church happened later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaSentinelle View Post
    How do you determine whether a country/nation is western or not? What is your criteria? What language family they belong to? What part of the world they live in?

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