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    UK was Serbian ally in WW1 and WW2, but now it is one of the countries with the most anti-Serb attitude, supporting Albanians and Bosnian Muslims in Balkans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantic Reptilian View Post
    From what I've heard, those (bosniaks) who moved to France more often were left without a job. UK was a better option. Canada, Australia and Norway (perhaps also Ireland?) were better at offering long-term job opportunities (which is good because it's not fun to just sit at home and not do anything productive). (I have relatives in all of the mentioned countries).
    Most Bosniaks, as well as Albanians or any Balkan nationalities are in Germany, Switzerland, Austria and Sweden
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueState View Post
    Most Bosniaks, as well as Albanians or any Balkan nationalities are in Germany, Switzerland, Austria and Sweden
    Yes they are, but, for instance, Norway was able to take care of the Bosniaks who arrived much better than Sweden. They were much faster at handing out licenses to i. e. doctors, so that they could work in their fields, whilst in Sweden, you were lucky if your degree was authenticated.
    I have relatives in both Norway and Sweden, and I would say Norway did a better job at integrating. At the same time it's a smaller country than Sweden.

    From what I've heard, Australia offered great opportunities for people to start small businesses easily. And they were also permitted to work much sooner, whilst in the US, you had to get a permit to work, which took more time to get.

    As for Germany and Austria, they have been the most generous to Bosniaks. Sweden opened up once Germany was overloaded and had to send people back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    UK was Serbian ally in WW1 and WW2, but now it is one of the countries with the most anti-Serb attitude, supporting Albanians and Bosnian Muslims in Balkans.
    Maybe they are pro BiH on paper, since the US is, but I doubt they are pro-muslim other than making it seem like they are "progressive and accepting"? Or what do you think?
    I agree that they aren't pro-serb.

    But I don't think the US was in the Balkans for any good reasons, except for making it look like they were intervening for "peace".
    I have also heard rumors that they tried to look for oil in Bosnia but didn't find any?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    And this is now being exported to the UK with these folks who cause exactly such conditions.

    But be happy for the small vessels.

    When they are big it gets like this (Albanians going to Italy in 1991):

    [img]https://i.imgur.com/FA8rgpg[/mg]

    [img]https://i.imgur.com/D87hUg[/ig]

    That was after communism, Albania itself went bankrupt and was in a civil war in 1997 also, Albania was never involved directly in the Kosovo War




    Quote Originally Posted by Thorns View Post
    Serbia's revenge for NATO bombs. Enjoy.
    Yeah NATO bombs lol

    On 8 October 1912, Montenegrin troops marched in the vilayet of Shkodra. That was followed by Serbia, Bulgaria, and Greece to declare war on Ottoman Empire, thus starting the First Balkan War. Montenegrin, Serbian and Greek forces advanced in territories which were majorly populated by Albanians, and tried to change the ethnic reality through extermination of the Albanian population, with around 25 000 Albanians killed by early 1913.[12] Alarmed at the plans of Montenegro, Serbia and Greece to partition between them the territories of the western Balkans, the Albanians delegates met at a congress in Vlorë, where on 28 November 1912 declared the independence of Albania.[13]

    On 3 December 1912, the ambassadors of the six Great Powers of that time (Great Britain, France, Germany, Austria-Hungary, Russia and Italy) met in London to decide about the fate of the Albanian-inhabited territories. After much discussion, the Ambassadors reached a formal decision on 29 July 1913 to establish the Principality of Albania which independence would be recognized, but more than half of the territory of the Independent Albania and about 30%-40%[14] of the ethnic Albanian population would be awarded to Serbia, Montenegro, and Greece. Though deprived of more than half of its ethnic territory, Albania would be a sovereign state independent of the Ottoman Empire.[15][16]
    It was Great Britain that gave half of Albanian territories to the Serbs. Let's nor forget that. It was Albanians first that revolted against the Ottoman Empire, they merely took advantage of an Albanian revolt.

    The borders of the Principality of Albania established in 1913 left a large number of ethnic Albanians outside the new state, and many of them fled or were forcibly driven inside the recognized borders of Albania.[21] In Kosovo, Serbian troops attempted to alter the demographic makeup of the region through mass expulsions. Over 100,000 Albanians emigrated from Kosovo during 1918-1941.[22][23]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_Albania



    Oh poor Serbia, bunch of people who are leaving their own country and has an aging population. For Kosovo and Albania what you see is mostly young people leaving since it has one of Europe's youngest population.


    Also if Serbia is so tough how come they didn't go to war against NATO ?

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