Are Georgians white (or maybe even considered european)?

[Lplius]

Irrelevant. CHG is very low in non southern Europeans and far more widespread in MENA. Vast majority of Europeans don't descend from Yamnaya.

But Corded Ware is itself derived mostly from Yamnaya who were half CHG.
Then again the quantity is irrelevant because both ENF and CHG come from West Asia and peak in West Asia.

[Jana]

Most native Europeans like Latvians score 5X more Anatolia neolithic than CHG (using rothaer ancient calc here, thanks!)

Target: Latvian
Distance: 0.0885% / 0.08847212

48.0 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
34.9 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
10.1 WHG=BEL_Loschbour
7.0 CHG=GEO_CHG

meanwhile Saudi Arabs

Target: Saudi
Distance: 0.0672% / 0.06719833

75.6 Natufian=Levant_Natufian
21.2 CHG=GEO_CHG
3.2 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N

Over 20% CHG and only 3% Anatolia Neolithic. It's pretty clear which component is non European one.

[Lplius]

ENF peaks in West Asia?? LOL

Target: Swedish
Distance: 4.5831% / 0.04583107
51.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
32.2 ENF
16.6 WHG

Target: Spanish_Aragon_North
Distance: 4.0053% / 0.04005317
55.2 ENF
28.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
15.8 WHG
0.4 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
Distance: 2.4244% / 0.02424364
57.2 ENF
34.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.2 WHG

Target: German_Hamburg
Distance: 4.2887% / 0.04288746
48.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
36.6 ENF
14.8 WHG

Target: Lebanese_Christian
Distance: 1.7433% / 0.01743260
38.0 Levant_PPNB
22.0 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
21.8 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
13.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
5.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

Target: Sardinian
Distance: 3.4393% / 0.03439319
81.6 ENF
13.2 WHG
4.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.8 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
0.4 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Yemenite_Jew
Distance: 5.2592% / 0.05259193
42.2 Levant_Natufian
33.8 Levant_PPNB
13.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
10.4 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps

Target: Yemenite_Al_Bayda
Distance: 4.3124% / 0.04312392
42.6 Levant_Natufian
36.6 Levant_PPNB
20.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.6 Gambian

What do you think Levant_Natufian, Levant_PPNB and TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N are? They're the parents of ENF.

[Eurafricanid]

So you did't see my post? Hmm..

[Jana]

But Corded Ware is itself derived mostly from Yamnaya who were half CHG.
Then again the quantity is irrelevant because both ENF and CHG come from West Asia and peak in West Asia.

I think it was written to you more than once that you write unfactual nonsense. Move on.

[Eurafricanid]

What do you think Levant_Natufian, Levant_PPNB and TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N are? They're the parents of ENF.

The parents....

Target: TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
Distance: 2.1712% / 0.02171190
74.2 ENF
16.8 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
9.0 Levant_Natufian

Target: Levant_PPNB
Distance: 3.6710% / 0.03671010
53.6 Levant_Natufian
46.4 ENF

And even if they are the "parents", in some way, the "child" isn't the parents, and it's very clear who matches more ENF and who doesn't

[Jana]

But Corded Ware is itself derived mostly from Yamnaya who were half CHG.
Then again the quantity is irrelevant because both ENF and CHG come from West Asia and peak in West Asia.

Corded Ware is less CHG than Yamnaya and more ENF.

Target: Corded_Ware_Baltic
Distance: 0.0510% / 0.05104857

45.9 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
29.0 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
16.5 CHG=GEO_CHG
8.6 WHG=BEL_Loschbour

Target: Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
Distance: 0.0588% / 0.05879302

56.7 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
36.5 CHG=GEO_CHG
6.8 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N

Bell Beaker as well.

Target: Bell_Beaker_NLD
Distance: 0.0577% / 0.05773382

41.6 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
35.7 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
14.8 CHG=GEO_CHG
7.9 WHG=BEL_Loschbour

[Jana]

European neolithic farmers are the same farmers from the Levant plus extra WHG-like just like CHG are Iran_N plus extra ANE and WHG and they do peak in Arabia.
There is no reason to consider ENF a more European or whiter ancestry than CHG.

Nope. I guess you are MENA trying to be white or European. Sry.

[Eurafricanid]

What do you think Levant_Natufian, Levant_PPNB and TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N are? They're the parents of ENF.

And even if they are the "parents", in some way, the "child" isn't the parents, and it's very clear who matches more ENF and who doesn't

[kingmob]

I don't care for this discussion, but one reason the southern euros are distinct to North Euros is due to their high Anatolian Farmer, that is, more likely than not, responsible for their Med phenotype.

And for this reason, they overlap more with MENA people than with Northern Euros in their phenotypes.