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    Quote Originally Posted by HectorOfTroy View Post
    Modern Europeans are NEF/EEF (MENA farmer) + WHG + Steppe. Steppe people are mixed with CHG so not purely european, NEF are nearly same as levantines. only WHG is true pure european.
    yes, I know..

    [1] "distance%=1.7256"

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    Quote Originally Posted by vader View Post
    yes, I know..
    Actually I take that back, maybe Near Eastern Farmers count as genetically european. Just far away from Northern Europeans at the same time. I remember seeing a genetic plot of modern euros and MENAs with archaic euros. NEF's were closer to europeans than MENAS. They were basically just a hyper southern european group

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    Quote Originally Posted by HectorOfTroy View Post
    Modern Europeans are NEF/EEF (MENA farmer) + WHG + Steppe. Steppe people are mixed with CHG so not purely european, NEF are basically archaic non semitic levantines I think. only WHG is true pure european.
    The CHG from Steppe explains why North Italians have higher West Asian than Iberians and Southern French? or its pos-neolithic admix?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Theodore View Post
    The CHG from Steppe explains why North Italians have higher West Asian than Iberians and Southern French? or its pos-neolithic admix?
    CHG from Italy comes from Roman Times, South Italians have very few Steppe admix but a lot of CHG
    Can be from Greek, Levantine, Anatolian and other influences


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bokoto View Post
    I think ANF/EEF is of semitic origin. ANF ​​and my distance from the natufian component are the same and I have 1/8 Arab sayyid ancestors, my haplogroup is J1...

    Distance to: Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    0.12499509 Levant_Neolithic_Farmer_Levant_PPNB
    0.22184249 Levant_Natufian_Hunter-Gatherer_Levant_Natufian
    0.33574926 Caucasus_Hunter-Gatherer_GEO_CHG
    0.33822432 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    0.37310652 Iran_Neolithic_Farmer_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    0.42488939 Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva
    0.44941359 Morocco_Early_Neolithic_Farmer_MAR_EN
    0.45274731 Indus__Valley_Civilization_IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2: I8728
    0.45965913 West_Europe_Hunter-Gatherer_WHG
    0.49526897 West_Siberia_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Tyumen_HG
    0.49741415 Southeast_Asia_Hoabinhian_Hunter-Gatherer_LAO_Hoabinhian
    0.57798641 Japan_Jomon_Hunter-Gatherer_JPN_Jomon
    0.62167794 Southeast_Asia_Neolithic_Farmer_VNM_N
    0.62289868 Tibetan_Plateau_Late_Neolithic_NPL_Chokhopani_2700 BP
    0.62666821 South_China_Neolithic_Farmer_CHN_Liangdao2_N
    0.64028791 Holocene_Beringian_RUS_Old_Bering_Ekven
    0.65234661 North_China_Neolithic_Farmer_CHN_Boshan_N
    0.65414698 Amur_Basin_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
    0.65478787 Australian_Aborigine_AUS_Willandra_Lakes_4000BP
    0.67942623 Siberia_Uralic-like_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
    0.68645832 East_Africa_Hunter_Gatherer_ETH_4500BP
    0.68819964 Nilotic_Pastoralist_KEN_Kakapel_900BP
    0.72925719 Amerindian_BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
    0.73047800 Papuan-Melanesian_VUT_2300BP_all
    0.77384315 West_Africa-Bantu_Farmer_COG_Kindoki_230BP

    Distance to: Bokoto
    0.18755012 Levant_Neolithic_Farmer_Levant_PPNB
    0.18856905 Caucasus_Hunter-Gatherer_GEO_CHG
    0.19581080 Iran_Neolithic_Farmer_IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    0.19715834 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmer_TUR_Barcin_N
    0.22061471 Levant_Natufian_Hunter-Gatherer_Levant_Natufian
    0.22754639 Pontic_Steppe_Yamnaya_Pastoralist_Yamnaya_RUS_Sama ra
    0.32638863 Indus__Valley_Civilization_IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2: I8728
    0.38708354 West_Siberia_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Tyumen_HG
    0.41663183 Southeast_Asia_Hoabinhian_Hunter-Gatherer_LAO_Hoabinhian
    0.41974686 Baltics_Narva_Hunter-Gatherer_Baltic_LTU_Narva
    0.43120286 Morocco_Early_Neolithic_Farmer_MAR_EN
    0.47182135 West_Europe_Hunter-Gatherer_WHG
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    0.56036265 Tibetan_Plateau_Late_Neolithic_NPL_Chokhopani_2700 BP
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    0.60582403 Australian_Aborigine_AUS_Willandra_Lakes_4000BP
    0.62047095 Siberia_Uralic-like_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
    0.64280799 Nilotic_Pastoralist_KEN_Kakapel_900BP
    0.64370591 East_Africa_Hunter_Gatherer_ETH_4500BP
    0.66638345 Amerindian_BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
    0.68573635 Papuan-Melanesian_VUT_2300BP_all
    0.73264938 West_Africa-Bantu_Farmer_COG_Kindoki_230BP
    0.74881562 West_Africa_Hunter-Gatherer_CMR_Shum_Laka_3000BP
    0.88484458 South_Africa_Hunter-Gatherer_ZAF_2100BP
    how much east asian + siberian genes do you have ? and caucasian ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Theodore View Post
    The CHG from Steppe explains why North Italians have higher West Asian than Iberians and Southern French? or its pos-neolithic admix?
    Greeks and Levantines from migration during the Roman empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bokoto View Post
    East asian %1 bro
    caucasus ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Theodore View Post
    The CHG from Steppe explains why North Italians have higher West Asian than Iberians and Southern French? or its pos-neolithic admix?
    Italic tribes before Imperial age (from further south like Rome) had lower CHG than modern North Italians and higher WHG.


    Target: ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
    Distance: 0.0448% / 0.04477028
    69.4 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
    19.5 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
    7.3 WHG=BEL_Loschbour
    3.8 CHG=GEO_CHG


    Target: ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
    Distance: 0.0431% / 0.04311800
    69.4 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
    14.4 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
    9.1 WHG=BEL_Loschbour
    7.1 CHG=GEO_CHG

    Target: Italian_Piedmont
    Distance: 0.0364% / 0.03635708
    63.3 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
    20.6 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
    13.3 CHG=GEO_CHG
    2.8 WHG=BEL_Loschbour


    Target: Italian_Lombardy
    Distance: 0.0423% / 0.04231222
    64.8 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
    20.8 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
    10.9 CHG=GEO_CHG
    3.5 WHG=BEL_Loschbour

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bokoto View Post
    %43 dodecad12b for
    are you kurd ?

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    My mom's sides tepecik ancestry (5.6% about) probably is why she plots near northern Italy, could be roman ancestry. Romans had the algarve for longer than northern areas
    [1] "distance%=1.7256"

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