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    Quote Originally Posted by Lplius View Post
    You need to cope 2 times.



    First to accept that ENF is closer to MENAs than to the majority of Europeans:

    Code:
    Distanceto:	TUR_Barcin_N
    0.12269966	Sephardic_Jew
    0.12346224	Ashkenazi_Germany
    0.15419045	Lebanese_Muslim
    0.16247961	Armenian_Aintab
    0.16466249	Jordanian
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    0.17536161	Georgian_Meskheti
    0.17640103	BedouinA
    0.18657758	Yemenite_Amran
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    Do you even know what the TUR in TUR_Barcin_N stands for?

    And second to accept that European farmers are Middle Eastern in origins because they're the product of West Asian farmers moving north and westward.

    From The genetic structure of the world’s first farmers:





    And more:


    And if you prefer a more amateurish look:

    Code:
    Distanceto:	TUR_Barcin_N
    0.12499509	Levant_PPNB
    0.22184249	Levant_Natufian
    0.45965913	WHG
    Code:
    Target: TUR_Barcin_N
    Distance: 11.5618% / 0.11561791
    86.2	Levant_PPNB
    7.6	WHG
    6.2	GEO_CHG



    If the children of West Asian farmers and European Hunter Gatherers are 100% European then the son of a white and black couple is 100% European too. Mulattos are white and European because they aren't black According to your own logic of course.
    There are no pure ENF's in Europe like there are no pure WHGs in Europe. A lot can happen over 10000 years - France and England have turned into a multi cultural shit hole in 50 years let alone 10000 years. Seems some of you people are not very bright or try to be.
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    Whoever says these Georgians don't look white is obviously trolling. However, many others don't and have typical West Asian features even if light skinned (Cuacasians are in general light skinned).

    Most Caucasians are of darker kind, comparable with southern Europeans but with different features.

    But European they are not.

    That's why white term is not very valuable. It's about lookism. Ofc that there are many non Europeans or mixed Europeans that look white, that's not really a new discovery.

    Being European is strictly genetic based and Caucasians are for sure not part of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    There are no pure ENF's in Europe like there are no pure WHGs in Europe. A lot can happen over 10000 years - France and England have turned into a multi cultural shit hole in 50 years let alone 10000 years. Seems some of you people are not very bright or try to be.
    Of course, that's why I'm using sources dating back to thousands of years instead of modern populations. Have you been living in a cave all your life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Theodore View Post
    Cope hard and cherrypick, these people are still closer genetically to osamas than any european, they're not white dude XD.
    What is cherrypicked? This are random georgian people, most of you have never seen real georgian in your life.
    If this people are not white, tell me what is white then )))) There is nothing bad about dark skin, i am sexually more attracted to dark skinned people. But Georgians are not darker then your average European.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Ofc that there are many non Europeans that look white, that's not really a new discovery.
    What ethnicity you know, that have almost zero north euro admixture and have same amount of light eyed people, other than Georgians? I'm not talking about mixed ones.

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    Which one looks more white or even european?

    Georgian with 72.3% west asian


    Armenian 52.6% west asian


    or Iranian 45% west asian?


    Obviously Georgians are the most euro/white looking, right? So if CHG is responsible for darker phenotype, Georgians should be the darkest ones. But the reality is that, Georgians having almost zero north euro admixture, look no more dark than south European and Balkan people, which have tons of north euro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by user_ View Post
    Which one looks more white or even european?
    Looking white =/= Being white

    Genetics is what matters, lookism means nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bokoto View Post
    They look like this because Georgians have too much ANE gene
    That means Georgians are closer to Baltic people, than Sardinians are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bokoto View Post
    No LMAO

    Baltic people mostly whg+ some ANE
    Okay, i thought EHG was related to ANE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Ofcourse he doesn't, only Europeans with mongoloid ancestry are those like Finns, Russians, Romanians, Hungarians....

    ANE isn't mongoloid. It is ancient component ancestral to caucasians and amerindians with mong like affinity but when we say mongoloid we mean actual mongoloid like uralic, cuman, tatar, avar or turkish admixture.

    English score zero mongoloid on all admixture runs. Let's stop trolling, he may have a yellow fetish but Brits are as mongoloid as Congolese are white.
    Feiichy please stop trying this "pure" master race thing. Does it help if I say "share" instead of mix. Southern Europeans have real actual shared ancestry with near easterners and Northern Europeans have real actual shared ancestry with East Asians, it changes nothing whether or not you consider the transmission vector to be "white". We, even you and I specifically differ in that you are closer to MENA populations than I am and I am closer to real europeans like WHG and EHG and to East Asians than you are neither of us are these things but our affinity for them separates us one from another, whether or not any "mixture" occurred ( which it did though ancient ) the closeness is still there. Web capture_1-12-2022_111527_www.exploreyourdna.com.jpeg You can clearly see I'm much closer to English with 5% Mongolian mixture than English with an additional 15% ANF despite ANF being "European" ( actually two thirds MENA and closer to Bedouins than most Europeans ) and Mongols being East Eurasian because in reality this comparison is 5% something foreign to me vs nearly 10% something foreign to me. Also Even in the post you are replying to a professional calculated a small affinity to East Asians roughly increasing with northerliness in every population on there even though Nganassan isn't a very good proxy.

    ANE isn't mongoloid. It is ancient component ancestral to caucasians and amerindians with mong like affinity but when we say mongoloid we mean actual mongoloid like uralic, cuman, tatar, avar or turkish admixture.

    Literally every population you list here is "Caucasoid" and majority West Eurasian other than Cumans and a small minority of Tatars. Also everyone on earth knows ANE isn't pure west Eurasian and it usually is estimated to be nearly a quarter east Eurasian and we know the exact type of East Eurasian, Tianyuan whom just so happens to be the exact direction EHG is being pulled from WHG on a PCA whilst the only differentiating factor between the two is ANE.
    Last edited by Ænglishman; 12-01-2022 at 04:25 PM.

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