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    with the new update:
    Target: k13:ivanK13
    Distance: 0.8542% / 0.00854242
    33.4 East_Iberian_IA
    23.6 Gaul
    14.4 Germanic_Ruler
    10.8 Phoenician
    7.0 Celtiberian_IA
    6.4 Greek_Settlers
    3.2 Berber_IA/MA
    1.2 Arab_Ruler

    now i don't get the insular keltic lol but you're getting better and better with this type of calculators.
    Target: ivorixG25
    Distance: 2.8107% / 0.02810741 | ADC: 0.25x RC
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    23.8 Scotland
    5.0 Saudi_Arabia
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    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 1.7208% / 0.01720762
    47.4 Germanic_Ruler
    36.8 Insular_Celt_IA
    11.4 Gaul
    4.4 East_Iberian_IA

    Distance to: Grace_scaled
    0.02223774 Insular_Celt_IA
    0.02470345 Germanic_Ruler:Gothic
    0.03599972 Germanic_Ruler:Suebi
    0.04514119 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:COL11
    0.04549460 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA1:NOR3-6
    0.04944412 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Hauts_De_France_IA2:BFM265
    0.05093793 Germanic_Ruler:Visigoth_Iberia
    0.05831814 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA1:Jeb8
    0.05844237 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:ERS1164
    0.06048271 Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:NOR3-15
    0.06659498 Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:ATT26
    0.06812658 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:COL153A
    0.07075909 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:ERS86
    0.07686700 Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_North_IA:I3759
    0.07795116 Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:ERS88
    0.07831371 Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:COL153i
    0.07847742 Celtiberian_IA:Iberia_North_IA:I3758
    0.08102345 East_Iberian_IA:Iberia_East_IA:I12879
    0.08144914 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA1:NOR2B6
    0.08577550 West_Iberian_IA:Lusitanian
    0.08632516 Celtiberian_IA:Iberia_LIA:I19991
    0.08937047 Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:NOR4
    0.09749471 Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_LIA:I19987
    0.09876318 Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_LBA:I2469
    0.10031852 East_Iberian_IA:Iberia_East_IA:I3320


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jgab602 View Post
    The Insular Celts are stealing DNA from the Hallstatt and Hispano Celts, makes sense, I'm going to take them out of this calculator, but thanks overall
    If you remove any sample it will change what you get. Insular Celts aren't really similar to Hallstatt or Hispano Celts.

    Target: Insular_Celt_IA
    Distance: 1.3539% / 0.01353858
    56.0 Germanic_Ruler
    43.2 Gaul
    0.8 Amerindian

    Target: Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_North_IA:I3759
    Distance: 1.3752% / 0.01375174
    46.4 East_Iberian_IA
    22.0 Hispano_Celt_IA
    15.6 Germanic_Ruler
    14.0 Gaul
    1.8 Amerindian
    0.2 Celtiberian_IA

    Target: Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_LIA:I19987
    Distance: 2.3392% / 0.02339215
    50.2 East_Iberian_IA
    31.2 Celtiberian_IA
    14.0 Hispano_Celt_IA
    4.6 Gaul

    Target: Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_LBA:I20740
    Distance: 3.7055% / 0.03705471
    45.8 Hispano_Celt_IA
    39.4 East_Iberian_IA
    13.4 Gaul
    1.2 Amerindian
    0.2 SSA

    Target: Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_LBA:I2469
    Distance: 2.5229% / 0.02522917
    38.6 West_Iberian_IA
    32.6 East_Iberian_IA
    15.8 Hispano_Celt_IA
    12.0 Gaul
    0.6 Berber_IA/MA
    0.4 SSA

    If I remove Insular Celt from my results I still get no Hispano_Celt

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 1.7798% / 0.01779848
    74.8 Germanic_Ruler
    22.0 Gaul
    3.2 East_Iberian_IA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    If you remove any sample it will change what you get. Insular Celts aren't really similar to Hallstatt or Hispano Celts.

    Target: Insular_Celt_IA
    Distance: 1.3539% / 0.01353858
    56.0 Germanic_Ruler
    43.2 Gaul
    0.8 Amerindian

    Target: Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_North_IA:I3759
    Distance: 1.3752% / 0.01375174
    46.4 East_Iberian_IA
    22.0 Hispano_Celt_IA
    15.6 Germanic_Ruler
    14.0 Gaul
    1.8 Amerindian
    0.2 Celtiberian_IA

    Target: Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_LIA:I19987
    Distance: 2.3392% / 0.02339215
    50.2 East_Iberian_IA
    31.2 Celtiberian_IA
    14.0 Hispano_Celt_IA
    4.6 Gaul

    Target: Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_LBA:I20740
    Distance: 3.7055% / 0.03705471
    45.8 Hispano_Celt_IA
    39.4 East_Iberian_IA
    13.4 Gaul
    1.2 Amerindian
    0.2 SSA

    Target: Hispano_Celt_IA:Iberia_LBA:I2469
    Distance: 2.5229% / 0.02522917
    38.6 West_Iberian_IA
    32.6 East_Iberian_IA
    15.8 Hispano_Celt_IA
    12.0 Gaul
    0.6 Berber_IA/MA
    0.4 SSA

    If I remove Insular Celt from my results I still get no Hispano_Celt

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 1.7798% / 0.01779848
    74.8 Germanic_Ruler
    22.0 Gaul
    3.2 East_Iberian_IA
    I didn't say that the Insular Celts were close to hispano Celts, I said they were stealing DNA from them, and and the Hallstatt, notice that when you used the calculator, the Hallstatt we're there anymore, because they didn't match Iberians as well.

    And if I take the individual samples for insular Celts instead of the average used before, I get this:

    Target: Insular_Celt:England_EIA:I19863
    Distance: 1.3738% / 0.01373772
    47.2 Germanic_Ruler
    22.2 Gaul
    13.4 Iberian-Propper_IA
    11.2 Hispano_Celt_IA
    5.2 Celtiberian_IA
    0.4 Amerindian
    0.4 SSA

    Target: Insular_Celt:England_EIA:I13689
    Distance: 1.6755% / 0.01675534
    44.8 Germanic_Ruler
    28.6 Gaul
    18.4 Celtiberian_IA
    6.8 Iberian-Propper_IA
    0.8 Amerindian
    0.6 Imperial_Greco-Roman

    Target: Insular_Celt:England_EIA:I11149
    Distance: 1.4736% / 0.01473566
    66.4 Germanic_Ruler
    21.8 Gaul
    7.6 Hispano_Celt_IA
    4.0 Iberian-Propper_IA
    0.2 Amerindian

    Target: Insular_Celt:Scotland_IA:I16504
    Distance: 2.5320% / 0.02532026
    68.2 Gaul
    29.0 Germanic_Ruler
    2.0 Hispano_Celt_IA
    0.8 SSA

    Target: Insular_Celt:Scotland_EIA:I2692
    Distance: 2.0649% / 0.02064915
    69.2 Germanic_Ruler
    28.4 Gaul
    1.6 Amerindian
    0.8 Imperial_Greco-Roman

    Target: Insular_Celt:Scotland_EIA:I16498
    Distance: 2.3112% / 0.02311212
    67.0 Germanic_Ruler
    31.4 Gaul
    1.6 Amerindian
    Target: Jgab602_scaled
    Distance: 0.7991% / 0.00799101

    47.0 SSA
    21.7 Spanish_Menorca
    14.8 Spanish_Soria
    13.8 Italian_Lazio
    2.7 Amerindian


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    Exclamation NEW UPDATE!

    The calculator is now updated! New Lusitanian samples added! Some samples were labeled incorrectly, and in slightly wrong categories, so I changed them.
    Insular Celts are now individual samples, and not an average anymore.

    You can add these SSA samples if you want, I can't edit the OP anymore.

    Code:
    SSA:Mende_Sierra_Leone:HG03052,-0.616921,0.06804,0.016216,0.014212,0.008925,0.01004,-0.011516,0.029306,-0.036201,0.024237,0.001949,-0.000599,0.015015,0.003441,0.00665,-0.000928,0.011474,0.006714,0.000377,0.00025,0.003868,0.000495,0.000493,-0.00735,0.000239
    SSA:Mende_Sierra_Leone:HG03057,-0.620336,0.069056,0.027907,0.01615,0.007694,0.006414,-0.032666,0.034383,-0.037019,0.033896,0.008282,-0.004496,0.017988,0.001239,0.008007,-0.011403,0.009909,0.008742,-0.002011,-0.002376,0.005865,0.003833,-0.002342,0.005543,0.00467
    SSA:Mende_Sierra_Leone:HG03069,-0.627165,0.060932,0.023381,0.020026,-0.003077,0.011992,-0.020446,0.023537,-0.041518,0.033531,0.005521,-0.007793,0.017988,-0.013487,0.008686,-0.009281,0.01343,0.009628,0.000251,-0.003877,0.001123,0.000989,-0.001849,0.003735,-0.001557
    SSA:Mende_Sierra_Leone:HG03072,-0.623751,0.061947,0.021873,0.015504,0.002462,0.013108,-0.021151,0.020999,-0.038246,0.026606,0.002436,-0.004946,0.020069,0.002477,0.001493,0.001591,0.009648,0.007221,-0.003771,0.004252,0.003993,0.000124,-0.00419,0.004579,-0.003353
    SSA:Mende_Sierra_Leone:HG03076,-0.622612,0.063978,0.02225,0.013889,-0.001846,0.004741,-0.021386,0.026537,-0.030883,0.028429,0.000325,-0.004646,0.015758,0.005092,0.013572,-0.015911,0.013821,0.006081,0.005279,-0.006628,0.004367,-0.001484,-0.007272,-0.00964,-0.002515
    SSA:Mende_Sierra_Leone:HG03078,-0.619198,0.066009,0.026776,0.017442,0.003385,0.006414,-0.021856,0.020999,-0.046018,0.023691,0.007795,-0.003897,0.027354,0.00234,0.015608,-0.013789,0.006258,0.004941,0.005908,0.004377,-0.003244,0.004204,-0.005423,0.000241,-0.000838
    SSA:Mende_Sierra_Leone:HG03085,-0.626027,0.062963,0.020365,0.023256,-0.004001,0.008646,-0.027731,0.036922,-0.037223,0.02934,0.009906,-0.007493,0.013825,0.00055,0.014522,-0.004773,0.007171,0,0.003897,-0.001251,0.004243,-0.000495,-0.003328,-0.001205,0.002155
    SSA:Mende_Sierra_Leone:HG03097,-0.624889,0.062963,0.024136,0.015827,0.010156,0.012829,-0.026556,0.022384,-0.043359,0.023691,0.009743,-0.006444,0.014271,0.002477,0.013436,-0.003713,0.003651,0.009755,-0.001634,0.002126,0.004243,0.002844,-0.003081,0.002048,-0.000239
    Target: Jgab602_scaled
    Distance: 0.7991% / 0.00799101

    47.0 SSA
    21.7 Spanish_Menorca
    14.8 Spanish_Soria
    13.8 Italian_Lazio
    2.7 Amerindian


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jgab602 View Post
    The calculator is now updated! New Lusitanian samples added! Some samples were labeled incorrectly, and in slightly wrong categories, so I changed them.
    Insular Celts are now individual samples, and not an average anymore.

    You can add these SSA samples if you want, I can't edit the OP anymore.

    Code:
    SSA:Mende_Sierra_Leone:HG03052,-0.616921,0.06804,0.016216,0.014212,0.008925,0.01004,-0.011516,0.029306,-0.036201,0.024237,0.001949,-0.000599,0.015015,0.003441,0.00665,-0.000928,0.011474,0.006714,0.000377,0.00025,0.003868,0.000495,0.000493,-0.00735,0.000239
    SSA:Mende_Sierra_Leone:HG03057,-0.620336,0.069056,0.027907,0.01615,0.007694,0.006414,-0.032666,0.034383,-0.037019,0.033896,0.008282,-0.004496,0.017988,0.001239,0.008007,-0.011403,0.009909,0.008742,-0.002011,-0.002376,0.005865,0.003833,-0.002342,0.005543,0.00467
    SSA:Mende_Sierra_Leone:HG03069,-0.627165,0.060932,0.023381,0.020026,-0.003077,0.011992,-0.020446,0.023537,-0.041518,0.033531,0.005521,-0.007793,0.017988,-0.013487,0.008686,-0.009281,0.01343,0.009628,0.000251,-0.003877,0.001123,0.000989,-0.001849,0.003735,-0.001557
    SSA:Mende_Sierra_Leone:HG03072,-0.623751,0.061947,0.021873,0.015504,0.002462,0.013108,-0.021151,0.020999,-0.038246,0.026606,0.002436,-0.004946,0.020069,0.002477,0.001493,0.001591,0.009648,0.007221,-0.003771,0.004252,0.003993,0.000124,-0.00419,0.004579,-0.003353
    SSA:Mende_Sierra_Leone:HG03076,-0.622612,0.063978,0.02225,0.013889,-0.001846,0.004741,-0.021386,0.026537,-0.030883,0.028429,0.000325,-0.004646,0.015758,0.005092,0.013572,-0.015911,0.013821,0.006081,0.005279,-0.006628,0.004367,-0.001484,-0.007272,-0.00964,-0.002515
    SSA:Mende_Sierra_Leone:HG03078,-0.619198,0.066009,0.026776,0.017442,0.003385,0.006414,-0.021856,0.020999,-0.046018,0.023691,0.007795,-0.003897,0.027354,0.00234,0.015608,-0.013789,0.006258,0.004941,0.005908,0.004377,-0.003244,0.004204,-0.005423,0.000241,-0.000838
    SSA:Mende_Sierra_Leone:HG03085,-0.626027,0.062963,0.020365,0.023256,-0.004001,0.008646,-0.027731,0.036922,-0.037223,0.02934,0.009906,-0.007493,0.013825,0.00055,0.014522,-0.004773,0.007171,0,0.003897,-0.001251,0.004243,-0.000495,-0.003328,-0.001205,0.002155
    SSA:Mende_Sierra_Leone:HG03097,-0.624889,0.062963,0.024136,0.015827,0.010156,0.012829,-0.026556,0.022384,-0.043359,0.023691,0.009743,-0.006444,0.014271,0.002477,0.013436,-0.003713,0.003651,0.009755,-0.001634,0.002126,0.004243,0.002844,-0.003081,0.002048,-0.000239
    Now thats changed a little:

    Target: JingleBell_scaled
    Distance: 1.0983% / 0.01098266
    44.6 SSA
    15.8 Gaul
    13.6 Iberian-Propper_IA
    6.0 Hispano_Celt_IA
    5.4 Arab_Ruler
    4.8 Berber_IA/MA
    4.2 Phoenician
    3.0 Native_American
    2.6 Greek_Settler

    before:


    Target: JingleBell_scaled
    Distance: 1.0939% / 0.01093866
    44.4 SSA
    15.0 Gaul
    14.2 East_Iberian_IA
    8.4 Arab_Ruler
    6.0 Hispano_Celt_IA
    5.0 Berber_IA/MA
    3.0 Native_American
    2.4 Greek_Settlers
    1.6 Imperial_Greco-Roman
    Target: JingleBell_scaled
    Distance: 1.5325% / 0.01532452
    46.6 SSA
    42.2 Portuguese
    8.6 Sephardic_Jew
    2.6 Native_American


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    These are my results:

    Target: Jgab602_scaled
    Distance: 0.5185% / 0.00518493
    47.0 SSA
    15.2 Iberian-Propper_IA
    14.0 Gaul
    9.4 Imperial_Greco-Roman
    9.2 Hispano_Celt_IA
    2.8 Amerindian
    2.0 Phoenician
    0.4 Greek_Settler
    Target: Jgab602_scaled
    Distance: 0.7991% / 0.00799101

    47.0 SSA
    21.7 Spanish_Menorca
    14.8 Spanish_Soria
    13.8 Italian_Lazio
    2.7 Amerindian


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jgab602 View Post
    These are my results:

    Target: Jgab602_scaled
    Distance: 0.5185% / 0.00518493
    47.0 SSA
    15.2 Iberian-Propper_IA
    14.0 Gaul
    9.4 Imperial_Greco-Roman
    9.2 Hispano_Celt_IA
    2.8 Amerindian
    2.0 Phoenician
    0.4 Greek_Settler
    Damn, high Roman
    Caesar, morituri te salutant!
    Target: JingleBell_scaled
    Distance: 1.5325% / 0.01532452
    46.6 SSA
    42.2 Portuguese
    8.6 Sephardic_Jew
    2.6 Native_American


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    Iberia (Portugal & Galicia, that I know of), Cameroon, Nigeria, Brazil (All the way back).
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    Damn, high Roman
    Caesar, morituri te salutant!
    ahahhaha yeah!
    Target: Jgab602_scaled
    Distance: 0.7991% / 0.00799101

    47.0 SSA
    21.7 Spanish_Menorca
    14.8 Spanish_Soria
    13.8 Italian_Lazio
    2.7 Amerindian


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    Distance to: CDG_scaled
    0.02815310 Insular_Celt:England_EIA:I11149
    0.02851557 Germanic_Ruler:Gothic
    0.03074670 Insular_Celt:Scotland_EIA:I16498
    0.03190729 Insular_Celt:Scotland_EIA:I2692
    0.03410629 Insular_Celt:England_EIA:I13689
    0.03631814 Germanic_RulerEU_MA:ALH_1
    0.03637884 Germanic_RulerEU_MA:ALH_10
    0.03667677 Germanic_RulerEU_MA_Alemanic_Byzantine:NIEcap12c
    0.03824909 Insular_Celt:Scotland_IA:I16504
    0.03980292 Insular_Celt:England_EIA:I19863
    0.04035122 Germanic_Ruler:Migration_LIB:Suebi:LIB2
    0.04161612 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Hauts_De_France_IA2:BFM265
    0.04248208 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:COL11
    0.04536051 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA1:NOR3-6
    0.05442840 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:ERS1164
    0.05581640 Germanic_RulerEU_MA:AED_106
    0.05654879 Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:ATT26
    0.05809230 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA1:Jeb8
    0.06078658 Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:NOR3-15
    0.06100856 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:COL153A
    0.07193121 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:ERS86
    0.07314464 Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:COL153i
    0.07362566 Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:ERS88
    0.07434773 Tartesso-Lusitanian:Iberia_West_Conimbriga:R10487
    0.07440241 Celtiberian_IA:Iberia_North_IA:I3758

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 1.5750% / 0.01574953
    42.6 Insular_Celt
    32.2 Germanic_Ruler
    24.4 Gaul
    0.4 Greek_Settler
    0.4 Imperial_Greco-Roman

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 1.5750% / 0.01574972
    36.0 Insular_Celt:Scotland_EIA:I16498
    23.6 Germanic_Ruler:Gothic
    13.2 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Hauts_De_France_IA2:BFM265
    8.8 Germanic_Ruler:Migration_LIB:Suebi:LIB2
    8.4 Gaul:Gaul:FRA_IA:NOR4
    5.0 Insular_Celt:Scotland_IA:I16504
    1.8 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA2:COL153A
    1.4 Insular_Celt:Scotland_EIA:I2692
    1.2 Gaul:Gaul_HLT:FRA_Grand_Est_IA1:NOR2B6
    0.6 Imperial_Greco-Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA_o

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