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    thutmose lineage leads back to tao. Who was fighting the hyskos away from egypt
    Quite the opposite actually



    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thutmose_I
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    Seqenenre Tao (also Seqenera Djehuty-aa or Sekenenra Taa, called 'the Brave') ruled over the last of the local kingdoms of the Theban region of Egypt in the Seventeenth Dynasty during the Second Intermediate Period. He probably was the son and successor to Senakhtenre Ahmose and Queen Tetisheri. The dates of his reign are uncertain, but he may have risen to power in the decade ending in 1560 BC or in 1558 BC (based on the probable accession date of his son, Ahmose I, the first ruler of the Eighteenth Dynasty, see Egyptian chronology). With his queen, Ahhotep I, Seqenenre Tao fathered two pharaohs, Kamose, his immediate successor who was the last pharaoh of the Seventeenth Dynasty, and Ahmose I who, following a regency by his mother, was the first pharaoh of the Eighteenth. Seqenenre Tao is credited with starting the opening moves in a war of revanchism against Hyksos incursions into Egypt, which saw the country completely liberated during the reign of his son Ahmose I.



    Revanchism (French: revanchisme, from revanche, "revenge")
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    Quote Originally Posted by zebruh View Post
    Also the judeo christian god yahweh is Equivelant to the god hesphasteus i believe in canaanite religion as Jews are a subset of Canannite religion
    The word YHWH is the same as the Greek Gialo
 meaning Sea and also Aigiaon, and Ahaiyawoi (Ahhiyawa in Hittite texts,
Ekwesh in Egyptian) and Ocean.

    The name Aegeaus who ruled over Athens from 1282 BC is probably a corruption of Ogyges or vica versa, as is Achaeaus, since in Linear B, G and K and Xi are all interchangeable being represented by the same symbol. The Scythian translation would indicate that the all of these names came from the same root as Agios, meaning Sacred. The name Oceanus probably shares the same root too.

    The word Achaean also derives from Oceanus and comes from the same root as Aegialean and Yaw, Yam and Yunni.

    Ekwesh (Egyptian) = Eyakiwash = Ayahiwash = Ayahaewah (Hebrew) = Akhaiwoi
(Homeric) = Ahhiyawa (Hittite) = Aegialea (Greek) = Achaean-ous (Greek) =
Ochean-ous (Greek) = Sea Peoples.

    All of these words derive from the Greek words "Akri" meaning edge and
"Gialo" meaning Sea, from which comes the name of the Phoenician sea god Yah
and the name of the Hebrew god YHWH. The entire etymology is Indo-European.

    In Porphyry's translation of Sanchuniathon Jehovah is Pontus which makes him ruler over the Black Sea so it places Poseidon in Troy, which means he's also Odin.

    Jehovah was a Hyksos king. Jehovah since it is the same a Yaw or Ieuo or Yam (Sea) must be a derivative of Gialo (Yialo) meaning Sea.

    Aegialeus also derives from Yialos as is Yalta. Inarchus was the father of Aegialeus, and Oceanus( Janus I) was the father of Inarchus.

    Poseidon, Jehovah and probably Odin were all the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    The word YHWH is the same as the Greek Gialo
 meaning Sea and also Aigiaon, and Ahaiyawoi (Ahhiyawa in Hittite texts,
Ekwesh in Egyptian) and Ocean.

    The name Aegeaus who ruled over Athens from 1282 BC is probably a corruption of Ogyges or vica versa, as is Achaeaus, since in Linear B, G and K and Xi are all interchangeable being represented by the same symbol. The Scythian translation would indicate that the all of these names came from the same root as Agios, meaning Sacred. The name Oceanus probably shares the same root too.

    The word Achaean also derives from Oceanus and comes from the same root as Aegialean and Yaw, Yam and Yunni.

    Ekwesh (Egyptian) = Eyakiwash = Ayahiwash = Ayahaewah (Hebrew) = Akhaiwoi
(Homeric) = Ahhiyawa (Hittite) = Aegialea (Greek) = Achaean-ous (Greek) =
Ochean-ous (Greek) = Sea Peoples.

    All of these words derive from the Greek words "Akri" meaning edge and
"Gialo" meaning Sea, from which comes the name of the Phoenician sea god Yah
and the name of the Hebrew god YHWH. The entire etymology is Indo-European.

    In Porphyry's translation of Sanchuniathon Jehovah is Pontus which makes him ruler over the Black Sea so it places Poseidon in Troy, which means he's also Odin.

    Jehovah was a Hyksos king. Jehovah since it is the same a Yaw or Ieuo or Yam (Sea) must be a derivative of Gialo (Yialo) meaning Sea.

    Aegialeus also derives from Yialos as is Yalta. Inarchus was the father of Aegialeus, and Oceanus( Janus I) was the father of Inarchus.

    Poseidon, Jehovah and probably Odin were all the same.
    No it doesnt. Poisedon was placed in libya. Poisedonn was a libyan god clearly

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelasgus_of_Argos

    InThe SuppliantsEdit

    InAeschylus' playThe Suppliants[4][5]theDanaïdesfleeing fromEgyptseek asylum from King Pelasgus of Argos, who rules a broad territory bordered by the territory of thePaeoniansto the north, theStrymon (river)to the east, andDodona, the slopes of thePindus mountains, and the sea to the west;[6], that is, a territory including or north of the ThessalianPelasgiotis. The southern boundary is not mentioned; however,Apisis said to have come to Argos fromNaupactus"on the farther shore," (on the north coast of the Gulf of Corinth)[7]implying that Pelasgus' kingdom includes all of Greece from the north of Thessaly west of the Strymon to the shores of Peloponnesian Argos where the Danaïdes landed. He claims to rule the Pelasgians and to be the "child ofPalaichthon('ancient earth') whom the earth brought forth."

    The Danaïdes call the country the "Apian hills" and claim that it understands thekarbana audan,[8][9]which many translate as "barbarian speech" but Karba (where live theKarbanoi) is in fact a non-Greek word. They claim to descend from ancestors in ancient Argos even though they are of a "dark race" (melanthes... genos).[10]Pelasgus admits that the land was once called Apia but compares them to the women ofLibyaandEgypt[11]and wants to know how they can be from Argos on which they cite descent fromIo.

    In a lost play by Aeschylus,Danaan Women, he defines the original homeland of the Pelasgians as the region aroundMycenae.[12]



    Pelasgian J-L283

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    Quote Originally Posted by zebruh View Post
    No it doesnt. Poisedon was placed in libya. Poisedonn was a libyan god clearly
    Rubbish. Libya was an established Greek colony since 1667 BC, before there were ever "Libyans". They were called something else. Lebu first appear in 1100 BC but Lybia the historical person lived centuries before and was the daughter of the Greek Pharao Epaphus.

    Poseidon was the son of the previous Minoan King Saturn, (El in Phoenician).

    It was HIS CULT that derived from Libya, from the Greeks colonists and descendants of the Hyksos there, NOT HIS GENEOLOGY which was Greek.

    The cult of Poseidon in Libya was exactly the same as that in Phoenicia and Pontus.

    Poseidon's dominion was the Seas. And Minoans were the masters of the sea, not the Libyans. They have left archeological traces from Iberia to Scandinavia to Indian Ocean and even Americas.

    As you know at the reign of the Epaphus, the biggest catastrophic explosion happened in Greece, which submerged it under the water, and Greeks lost their historical records, but the Egyptians and Greeks in their colonies preserved them. That is why the Egyptian priest told Solon that you Greeks are like children but your civilization is older than ours or haven't you read Timaeus.

    The Greek Gods were former Greek kings who date to between 1800 and 1600 BC with the exception of Dionysus who dates to 1400 BC. Most of the traditions of the Greek Gods were established when the Greek
mystery cults were created with the borrowing of Egyptian ritual during the
period between 1500 and 1400 BC when Danaus and the sons of Aegyptus
(Tutmeses III) came to Greece. Before then the Greeks only honored those Gods as mortal kings and and paid funery honours and nothing more, they didn't ascribe mysteries to them and epithets like Sky God, storm God, etc. They took this custom from the Egyptians and Phoenicians. And they in turn took this custom from the Sumerians which is where all Egyptian cults originate. Thus Zeus was made a Sky God, thunderer. Ammon worship merged with that of Zeus.

    Since the worship of Poseidon did not originate from Egypt Poseidon may have been identified with the Phoenician Sea God Yah or Yam. He may have been the Hyksos vassal Yakubher or Yakobaam. He may have been the Hyksos vassal Yakubher or Yakobaam who ruled in about 1650 BC. If this was the case then name Poseidon may have derived from the Greek expression 'apo sidon' meaning 'from Sidon' or the city where the worship of Yah was practiced until 1300 BC.

    The practice of the God cults of the above kings indicates that there may have been an alliance in place between the Cretan Greeks, Hittites and Phoenicians that lasted until 1450 BC, when the Mycenean civilization was established in Greece.

    How The Eruption of Thera Changed the World - Dwarfed the atomic bomb
    https://www.livescience.com/4846-eru...ged-world.html

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    The Greek religion started of as an ancestor cult created by Argus the son
 of Zeus and Niobe and by the time of Mycenaean domination in 1450 BC it was established as the universal religion of the state and incorporated methods of worship imported from Egypt and adapted by the Greeks for their own use.

    From Herodotus we know that the cult of Poseidon was imported from Lybia and applied to a pre-existing Greek deity (defied king) and was most probablythe same as the cult of Jehovah the Phoenician sea god.

    The Olympian Gods lived before the Mycenaean and the Heroic ages. Zeus was
 contemporary with Inachus the father of Phoroneus and Phoroneus lived at the
 time of the Thera Eruption. (1628 BC)

    The Egyptian and Assyrian inscriptions are contemporary of Minoan
 and Mycenaean Greek civilisation which is went the Gods lived.

    The Greek God Sarapis is recorded in Egyptian king lists as is his processor 
and cousin Epaphus the grandson of Inachus. Sarapis is also recorded in
 Linear A inscriptions from the same time.

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    The only effect the Thera eruption had on Egypt was a short term change in climate. In Greece entire populations were wiped out. These populations were the ones who had writing (Linear-A) so the history could not be recorded.

    Without writing history does not exist. People forgot the eruption after 5 generations when nobody was around that was there to tell the story. All that was remembered was a state of "Chaos" but not how the "Chaos" got there. Nothing is known about how the Achaean-A civilisation arrived in Greece because nobody recorded it.

    How may people remeber the Ice Age. NONE whatsoever because nobody wrote it down. How many Australian Aboriginals remember that it was their own ancestors that destroyed the rain forests and turned the centre of the country into a desert. They don't even remember how they arrived in Australia.

    The Egyptians wrote the histories down and called the land Atlantis. They gave it a name and that was Eqwash which in Greek translated as Atlas and therefore Atlantis. Plato states that Atlantis was destroyed in one day and sunk under the sea. This is exactly what happened after the Thera eruption.

    Atlantis was "Minoan" Crete. The Athenians, ie the Akkiyahua defeated the Atlantian king Atlas, ie. Eqwash just before the Thera eruption and drove them out of Europe which means that these people were also the Hyksos. The Egyptians say the Athenians gained victory over the Atlantians BEFORE the eruption, probably 50 years, but their records were all destroyed when Thera blew. That would explain the Hyksos presence in Egypt just before the eruption.

    The flood which also destroyed Atlantis also wiped out most of Athens. This means that Atlantis was near Athens. It can't be the Americas since the account given by the Egyptians to Solon was dated to before Greek records began, i.e. 2nd millennium BC. The only great civilisation at the time of Thera was "Minoan" Crete -Atlantis. The Atlantic Ocean was never called the Atlantic by the Greeks. It was called Oceanus. Plato said is was beyond the Pillars of Hercules. The Bosphorus was also known as the Pillars of Hercules.

    No-one in a position to report survived as was stated by the Egyptians.

    The Thera eruption was even more violent than the 1883 eruption of Krakatoa, which produced tidal waves of up to 36 metres in height and wiped out whole populations in lowlying areas facing the island. Thera will have produced similar effects and similar loss of life as far away as Crete and mainland Greece. Similar, but much more extreme.

    The Eruption spewed out so much lava that the entire sea bed collapsed inwards and left a depression creator the size of the Aegean that can be seen from Space. The Cyclades which was once a continuous land mass was sunk under water and only the high ground remained survived. All of this was Atlantis.

    And this would correspond to the "Chaos" out of which Gia was born and then the Titans and Gods. These were the so-called "Mycenaean's".

    Nobody in Europe would have remembered Atlantis because none of them posses any writing to record the events.

    The Egyptians did possess writing and did record the events. The Atlantians did posses writing, Linear A but were all wiped out so could not record the event and if they did record it, it cant be deciphered.

    The Achaeans hadn't developed writing, Linear-B until years after the eruption so could not record it. Within 5 generation it was all forgotten except as "Chaos".

    The name of the Atlantinas in their language was preserved by the Achaeans as Eqwash which in Latin becomes Equine and Aqua.

    The Atlantians also known as the Hyksos were the ones who introduced the Chariot into Egypt and that accounts for their name being associated with Horses. Plato says the Atlantians used Chariots and the only way the Egyptians would have know what a chariot was is if the Atlantians were the Hyksos.

    The fact that they were destroyed by a huge flood explains the evolution ofthe word Aqua meaning underwater.

    Going by Linear B inscriptions the Atlantians would have called themselves the "Equatoi". Thus the Atlantian civilisation was assimilated Achaean-B civilisation and became the warrior cast.

    Because the Atlantians were the Hyksos and they told the Egyptians of their defeat so the Egyptians recorded it. The Egyptians records were not destoryd. They were 1000 miles away. Solon, Plato and the Egyptians made this perfectly clear. The records that were destroyed were those in Atlantis which contained all of the deteils of the battles.

    The Equatai (= Ekwash, Hyksos, Proto-Ionians, Atlantians, Titans) arrive in Greece and 2200 BC and take posession of Thera, and Crete (and 8 other regions) where they build their stongholds.

    The Proto-Achaeans (= Gods) who are another branch of the Proto-Ionians arrive (or rebel) in 1800 and force the Equatai to flee to Asia, Syria-Palestine, Egypt by 1700.

    The Minoan civilisation, the descendents of the people enslaved by the Proto-Ionians rises in Crete (= Hekadonchries, Cyclopes, Giants, Typhon) and Linear-A is invented.

    In 1628 Thera erupts and causes an 18 year long famine as recorded by Herodotus. The Proto-Achaeans may have been the forefathers of the Carians since Car the eponymous ancestor of the Carians and brother of Lydus the eponymous ancestor of the Lydian's is made to be the son of Phroneus by the time Pausanius was writing. In Herodotus time Car was the son of Atys in whose reign the famine occurred, which makes him equivalent to Phroneus. Pausanius refers to a district of Athens called Caria and Thucydides writes that after some battle or other when the Athenians purified the land and dug up all the dead bodies of those that died in previous wars dating back to pre-Homeric times the arms that they carried were Carian (in reality they would have been Mycenaean).

    The Equatai did not arrive from anywhere. They were already in Greece 10,000 years ago and were descended from a 46,000 year old indigenous population from northern Greece (30%) and a 16,000 year old population of migrants who came to Greece from the Iberian alps (40%) and a 6,000 year old European Phoenician population that came there by sea (30%). The Equatai were one of many tribes who developed their own indigenous culture in Greece and as the most successful they expanded outward from Northern Greece and conquered most of Europe 4200 years ago.

    The fact that there are two versions of the "creation" myth, that of the Titans and Gods and that of the Atlantians and Athenians indicates that from 2200 BC writing was already extent and so were trading contacts with Egypt.

    After Solon rediscovered the records of Atlantis in Egypt the Greeks including Socrates, Plato, and Herodotus realised that this was their basis of their religion and thus completely dismissed the gods and sought other forms of philosophy. Socrates was accused of inventing new Gods.

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    The account of Solon/Plato calls the Equatai (Atlantians) Barbarians. Therefore the conclusion is that they came form outside of Greece. Taken in correct context this means that the Ionians and Equatai were not considered to be Achaeans. The Biblical account places Ion as father of Hellene and of the Rhodians, Thracians and Cretans/Cypriots . The Greek account makes Ion Hellenes Grandson and also mentions an Io (Ioun) who was the ancestor of Cadmus and Europe.

    The Achaeans were stronger than the Equatai, but the Equatai were stronger than the Egyptians. They had Chariot Warfare and trained Horses. The Egyptians did not.

    Cronos c.1715-1675 BC known by the Romans as Saturn was the Cretan king Satur who ruled at Knossos some time between 1725 and 1675 BC according to Linear A inscriptions.

    The Titanic Empire of Cronos reached all they way to Tyrrhenia in the north and Egypt in the east and the Pillars of Hercules in the west, which fits Atlantis description being larger than Asia (Asia Minor) and Africa (Libya, Egypt) together.

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