Did the Vandals have a Great Impact in Balearic Islands?

[Jingle Bell]

Yes those one from the Thread i think is a very interesting one because that seems that the Germanics Had a real Impact in Iberian Genetics at least more in East Iberia and West Iberia obviously more Celtic seems logic that in roman era there were mixed Iberians

And its kinda hard know bcs modern iberians have more Indo-European and more MENA dna than the ancient ones (Celtiberians), but we dont exactly know if this extra Corded/Bell Beaker dna comes from the Celts or the Germanics, bcs we lack of Western celt samples and also we dont have very few samples from btw the end of ROman times but before the Moors

i think the ancient S. Iberians were 1/2 Celtiberians and 1/2 Roman and MENA (Based in what i saw in some g25 models) , these guys after reconquista mixed with Northern settlers which were Hevaly Germanic and Celtic, and this mix created modern iberians

[Beowulf]

Here:

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also a old member (banned now) called Tongio said to me one time that West-Iberia have the bigger Celt admix but also have the most MENA admix, and these MENA come from mixed roman soldier and phoenicians who introduced NA and Levantine genes in the peninsula, however the east got less but also got more visigoth blood, this guy was a human wikipedia, he knows all abt iberia, sadly he is not more in TA

Oh it's a shame that he got banned im sure he would said something interesting about this thread about the vandals in Balearic islands, bit thanks btw for the samples it would useful for my personal investigation about Old Iberia i want to know everything about our ancestors and i found this very interesting

[Jingle Bell]

Oh it's a shame that he got banned im sure he would said something interesting about this thread about the vandals in Balearic islands, bit thanks btw for the samples it would useful for my personal investigation about Old Iberia i want to know everything about our ancestors and i found this very interesting

im happy to be useful
have good researchs bro, gl

[Marshall Theodore]

Probably not

[Reozek]

no idea about Mallorca (beautiful place) but modern Sardinians can be modelled as 5% Scandinavians (Vandals, Goths ?)

Indigenous Sardinians = Nuragics
Guanche = Punics
Romans = Imperial Romans
I've also added Sidon MBA for the Phoenician ancestry = 0%

For Mallorca a better native source should be Mallorca BA instead of Nuragic BA

[Reozek]

Balearic islands

[Reozek]

Double

[Beowulf]

Balearic islands

that's very interesting the high nordic in modern balearic people i match with cousins of mallorca with high northern european but is not from recent ancestry, here we had the influence of a lot of people like the Franks, but the vandal period is a shame we can't know more about them.

[Beowulf]

Here:

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also a old member (banned now) called Tongio said to me one time that West-Iberia have the bigger Celt admix but also have the most MENA admix, and these MENA come from mixed roman soldier and phoenicians who introduced NA and Levantine genes in the peninsula, however the east got less but also got more visigoth blood, this guy was a human wikipedia, he knows all abt iberia, sadly he is not more in TA

the first sample seems that was an Avar:

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I12514
Distance: 1.9329% / 0.01932890 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.8 Avar_Hungary
18.0 Berber_IA
8.6 Celtiberian
6.6 Eastern_Scythian
5.4 Thailand_Iron_Age
5.0 India_North_Hindu_Kingdoms
2.6 Saami