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    I'm YF114365 on Yfull

    My paternal Y subclade R-FT288677 come from Northern France
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    My male bloodline is R-M167, and apparently more specifcally R-Z201.

    Haplogroup R-M167 (R1b1a1a2a1a2a1b1a1) is a Y-chromosome haplogroup which is a subdivision of Haplogroup R-DF27 and the wider haplogroup R-M269 (more specifically, its subclade R-) defined by the presence of the marker SRY2627. It arose comparatively recently, after the beginning of the European Bronze Age, and is mostly prevalent in the population of the Pyrenees region.

    It's grandfather, R-DF27 appeared roughly 6-700 yrs before in Basque territories (4200 ybp). I found this interesting abstract on R-DF27:

    "Haplogroup R1b-M269 comprises most Western European Y chromosomes; of its main branches, R1b-DF27 is by far the least known, and it appears to be highly prevalent only in Iberia. We have genotyped 1072 R1b-DF27 chromosomes for six additional SNPs and 17 Y-STRs in population samples from Spain, Portugal and France in order to further characterize this lineage and, in particular, to ascertain the time and place where it originated, as well as its subsequent dynamics. We found that R1b-DF27 is present in frequencies ~40% in Iberian populations and up to 70% in Basques, but it drops quickly to 6–20% in France. Overall, the age of R1b-DF27 is estimated at ~4,200 years ago, at the transition between the Neolithic and the Bronze Age, when the Y chromosome landscape of W Europe was thoroughly remodeled. In spite of its high frequency in Basques, Y-STR internal diversity of R1b-DF27 is lower there, and results in more recent age estimates; NE Iberia is the most likely place of origin of DF27. Subhaplogroup frequencies within R1b-DF27 are geographically structured, and show domains that are reminiscent of the pre-Roman Celtic/Iberian division, or of the medieval Christian kingdoms." (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-07710-x)

    From my personal research in my own DNA on that branch of my family, I would say these ancient Spanish genetics made there way into southern France (and eventually Normandy) roughly 2200 yrs ago. I get mixed results with different calculators on the percentages of Basque vs French in various time periods, but typically it's far more French Basque than just French on the more ancient tests. My male bloodline moved to Quebec in 1636.

    I do not know my Mom's Dad's haplogroup, but he was born in Gotland, Sweden and appears fully Swedish on all but one line that went back to Iceland around 400 yrs ago. His wife, my grandma, also fully Swedish, has large percentages of Norwegian DNA she knew nothing about her entire life-- and is now deceased. Her parents are from SW Sweden closer to Oslo and Gothenberg. I'm guessing my grandpa's line is typical L1a, but it might run back into something else through mesolithic Ukrainian men. I'm trying to get my cousin to find out (his FF is my MF).

    Thanks for reading.

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    Never tested for the deeper subclade...likely West Slavic, given my paternal line’s origin in NE Germany.

    I wish I knew what haplogroup represents my mother’s paternal side, but am yet to run into a close enough male relative of hers from that part of her family.
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    https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/G-Z6032/story



    19 people from Sardinia share my Y-DNA. Very cool

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