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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    Anyone who cares about being 'cool' as an adult is severely immature. Rap is pure iow IQ moronic trash.
    I didn't say I wanted to be cool, you misinterpreted, I said this was an exception and it sounded cool, plus I don't want to go into any depth about some study that correlates music and qi, I didn't even know they still used it this measure since it is inconsistent and was not even created for that

    And as i said i usually dont like rap, i just dont like, mostly musics sounds repetitive and criminal
    Also its kinda dangerous associate strongly Rap with qi, since qi was used inicially just to help kids who can have problems at school, its a kinda outdated metric which varies with time, studies alr showed the "qi" of ppl can varies a lot depending of time and situation, also now the science are studing new types of inteligence which are too complex to be measured with just question who can give inconsitent results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    There is crap in every genre, even classic. The most amount of crap though is generally found in 'local rap', like German rap, French rap, Italian rap etc...bare a few and far between exceptions they imitate American rappers, which is already setting the bar low and make it even worse, painful sound and mimics with a beatbox and some fool barbling poor rhymes. Really the bottom of the pile in musical production and an insult to human ingenuiety.
    You don't even know what you are talking about. Rap does not even qualify as music at all it does not matter what country it comes from.

    Bach : I made the rules

    Mozart : I am the rules in practice

    Beethoven : I have made my own rules !

    If you are not going to follow the rules then you better be a genius like Beethoven. Rappers are too mentally retarded to even know the rules exist and too stupid to follow them even if they did. Pop artists are not formally trained in music either so they are not breaking the rules in genius fashion . The only music genre outside of Romantic era classical and Berg-like atonal (which retains some Romantic era aspects) that breaks the rules and perhaps gets away with it is IDM like aphex twin and squarepusher and while they seem smart enough to break the rules and get away with it IDM does not have the universal appeal of classical (maybe, because they were not formally trained in music either). Frank Zappa, for example, sounds horribly dated to me.


    Rap 'music' was invented by low IQ blacks therefore any attempt to salvage this low IQ noise is doomed to failure :

    "The Negro race has perfect contempt for humanity and is incapable of contributing to civilization." --Hegel, The Philosophy of History

    "Humanity exists in its greatest perfection in the white race. The yellow Indians have a smaller amount of talent. The Negroes are lower, and the lowest are a part of the American peoples." "It is impossible to cite a single example in which a Negro has shown talents, and. . . that among the hundreds of thousands of blacks who have been transported elsewhere from their countries, although many of them have been set free, still not one was ever found who presented anything great in art or science or any other praiseworthy quality." --Immanuel Kant

    "At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes ... will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest Allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as the baboon, instead of as now between the Negro or Australian and the gorilla." --Charles Darwin The Descent of Man, 1871, p.201

    "No rational man, cognizant of the facts, believes that the average Negro is the equal, still less the superior, of the white man. And if this be true, it is simply incredible that, when all his disabilities are removed, and our prognathous relative has a fair field and no favor, as well as no oppressor, he will be able to compete successfully with his bigger-brained and smaller-jawed rival, in a contest which is to be carried out on by thoughts and not by bites." --Thomas H. Huxley Lay Sermons, Addresses and Reviews (New York, Appleton, 1871) (Huxley was a British scientist called Darwin's bulldog)


    Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (/ˈheɪɡəl/;[1][2] German: [ˈɡeːɔʁk ˈvɪlhɛlm ˈfʁiːdʁɪç ˈheːɡl̩];[2][3] 27 August 1770 – 14 November 1831) was a German philosopher. He is one of the most important figures in German idealism and one of the founding figures of modern Western philosophy. His influence extends across the entire range of contemporary philosophical topics, from metaphysical issues in epistemology and ontology, to political philosophy, the philosophy of history, philosophy of art, philosophy of religion, and the history of philosophy.

    Born in 1770 in Stuttgart during the transitional period between the Enlightenment and the Romantic movement in the Germanic regions of Europe, Hegel lived through and was influenced by the French Revolution and the Napoleonic wars. His fame rests chiefly upon The Phenomenology of Spirit, The Science of Logic, and his lectures at the University of Berlin on topics from his Encyclopedia of the Philosophical Sciences.

    Throughout his work, Hegel strove to address and correct the problematic dualisms of modern philosophy, Kantian and otherwise, typically by drawing upon the resources of ancient philosophy, particularly Aristotle. Hegel everywhere insists that reason and freedom are historical achievements, not natural givens. His dialectical-speculative procedure is grounded in the principle of immanence, that is, in assessing claims always according to their own internal criteria. Taking skepticism seriously, he contends that we cannot presume any truths that have not passed the test of experience.

    Guided by the Delphic imperative to "know thyself," Hegel presents free self-determination as the essence of humanity—a conclusion from his 1806-07 Phenomenology that he claims is further verified by the systematic account of the interdependence of logic, nature, and spirit in his later Encyclopedia. It is his claim that the Logic at once preserves and overcomes the dualisms of the material and the mental – that is, that it accounts for both the continuity and difference marking of the domains of nature and culture – as a metaphysically necessary and coherent "identity of identity and non-identity."

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    Immanuel Kant (UK: /kænt/,[20][21] US: /kɑːnt/,[22][23] German: [ɪˈmaːnu̯eːl ˈkant];[24][25] 22 April 1724 – 12 February 1804) was a German philosopher and one of the central Enlightenment thinkers.[26][27] Born in Königsberg, Kant's comprehensive and systematic works in epistemology, metaphysics, ethics, and aesthetics have made him one of the most influential figures in modern Western philosophy.[26][28]

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    Much better than Bach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle Bell View Post
    I didn't say I wanted to be cool, you misinterpreted, I said this was an exception and it sounded cool, plus I don't want to go into any depth about some study that correlates music and qi, I didn't even know they still used it this measure since it is inconsistent and was not even created for that

    And as i said i usually dont like rap, i just dont like, mostly musics sounds repetitive and criminal
    Also its kinda dangerous associate strongly Rap with qi, since qi was used inicially just to help kids who can have problems at school, its a kinda outdated metric which varies with time, studies alr showed the "qi" of ppl can varies a lot depending of time and situation, also now the science are studing new types of inteligence which are too complex to be measured with just question who can give inconsitent results.
    Cope mongrel darkie :

    Rap 'music' is essentially mindless 'music' which is part of a destructive environment known as the ghetto. The ghetto is inhabited by mostly people with very little education and low IQ’s. Low IQ people are attracted to it because they don't see the bigger picture of how childish and stupid rap really is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle Bell View Post
    I didn't say I wanted to be cool, you misinterpreted, I said this was an exception and it sounded cool, plus I don't want to go into any depth about some study that correlates music and qi, I didn't even know they still used it this measure since it is inconsistent and was not even created for that

    And as i said i usually dont like rap, i just dont like, mostly musics sounds repetitive and criminal
    Also its kinda dangerous associate strongly Rap with qi, since qi was used inicially just to help kids who can have problems at school, its a kinda outdated metric which varies with time, studies alr showed the "qi" of ppl can varies a lot depending of time and situation, also now the science are studing new types of inteligence which are too complex to be measured with just question who can give inconsitent results.


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    Rap is very mainstream and popular music. It is popular all over the world
    Are you sad because black singers/rapper are mainstream in white countries? 37.7% charting artist are black in billboard while black population in America 13.6%

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    I am sure that you support mainstream and popular white rap artist like jack Harlow this is just plain and simple racism
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    Quote Originally Posted by rajputprincess View Post
    Rap is very mainstream and popular music. It is popular all over the world
    Are you sad because black singers/rapper are mainstream in white countries? 37.7% charting artist are black in billboard while black population in America 13.6%

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    You have no point here. I guess you just like the sound of your own voice babbling pure illogical nonsense.

    1.) That rap is popular is is irrelevant :

    The logical fallacy of the Argumentum ad Populum (an appeal to popularity, public opinion or to the majority) is an argument, often emotively laden, for the acceptance of an unproved conclusion by adducing irrelevant evidence based on the feelings, prejudices, or beliefs of a large group of people.

    2.)Americans are idiots and have no idea what real 'music' is because they are uneducated :

    “The most erroneous assumption is to the effect that the aim of public education is to fill the young of the species with knowledge and awaken their intelligence, and so make them fit to discharge the duties of citizenship in an enlightened and independent manner. Nothing could be further from the truth. The aim of public education is not to spread enlightenment at all; it is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed and train a standardized citizenry, to put down dissent and originality. That is its aim in the United States, whatever the pretensions of politicians, pedagogues and other such mountebanks, and that is its aim everywhere else.”

    ~ H.L. Mencken

    The first compulsory public school system was in Prussia and it was not designed to educate the citizens but to brainwash them into all thinking alike on the important issues of the epoch.

    3.) The average world IQ is 85-87 and to geniuses like Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and Wagner that is like a bunch of severely mentally retarded chimpanzees.













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    Rap is music, but I have a poor opinion generally towards ALL music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rajputprincess View Post
    I am sure that you support mainstream and popular white rap artist like jack Harlow this is just plain and simple racism
    https://youtu.be/yQBImEeXNZ4
    https://youtu.be/HIwAI05Y1fU

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    I guess you were too busy being a third world street shitter to notice some of my propositions already addressed this issue. Higher IQ whites and asians can't salvage rap because it's structurally inferior, being , designed by low IQ blacks , so the content is irrelevant : lip stick on a pig. Typical liberal rhetoric : when you have no valid counterargument shout "racism"! Racist is a term a liberal uses to call a white man a nigger.
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