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What is wrong with recipricality law of Taoism, isnt it a brilliant statement about the nature`s rule? Also consistent with Newtonian classical laws !!
Yes, very brilliant, even when it elevates the reciprocality law unto the level of mutual rule and influence between man and nature!!But it is still not to be treated as a religious truth, chinese people treat it as a universal truth over all other wisdoms and religious principles!! this is the problem, chinese people treat it as the ultimate truth !! So you will understand why I react so strongly toward the contradictional intrepretations of Taoism and its intrinsic laws of contradiction. This can not be the ultimate truth, not even a part of the religious catechism, don`t you find the whole statement of "人法地，地法天，天法道，道法自然。“when interpreted in two contradictory ways, is actually making man the center of everything? the beginning as the man rules earth and vice versa, ending with tao rules nature and vice versa, then the man as the beginning and nature as the end, this nature however is defined by this man in "无为” condition, therefore the man of "无为“ is an understated "god" here. This Taoist statement is an anthropocentric philosophy made into a parareligious principle. This is very wrong, this explains why most taoist practioners pursue personal ascension into demigods(仙人）rather than try to help other people. Oh yea, the west is no better their church is corrupt, this is what I say the futile paradoxes, nobody is better so what? lets settle down forever? the west acts as a powerful mechanism of this negative argument don`t you see? You will only go for all these type of paradoxes with one another superfacial assumptions. Even I can not see much justice in the west, but I still believe the west is not totally corrupt nor is China. Go for deeper, and know each other deeper, there will be no such paradoxes but a harmonious truth of the one, this is not what we want: because this one is no better than lets trust in this lesser evil !! This is what the evil wants us to do..Find the deeper truth, everything will come togather on their own not in a natural way, but in MANY miraculous ways.
To put man under a perspective of natural works, and let man and nature rule over and struggle against each other: this is the understatement of the original "人法地，，，，道法自然" dogmatism, so I have to respond in a way of a religious man. This is not a part of any religion at all, let it be treated as a natural philosophy or secular ethics, but not religious.
Beyond man and nature, there is a universe of endless miracles, salvation is unstoppable, therefore it is natural? no, monsieur !! no !! when we choose to stay with our own nature and the nature under our own definition, we miss the wings of salvation from time to time, and get stuck forever in our own damnation. Only our own damnation and perpetual stupidity are natural or a part of what we considered as nature and science.
So let me give a new definition to the term : nature
Nature--what people can and want to and try to see in themselves and in the surrounding environment. Why would we call all objective existences as nature? becaause it is what we want to see according to our own nature, because all these we can see as natural act according to our own limitation, our own security, our own merits, our own ego, our own weakness, our own stupidity, our own selfishness, our own definition, our own power, our own image ！！！Nature in man`s mouth is nothing but his projective and inflating ego !!
什么是自然？为什么我们要把周围的一切事物称为自然？？想过吗？难道不是因为这些东西是我们根据自己的需要 去定义，根据我们自己的期望去定义，根据我们自己的局限性去反应，根据我们自己的弱点，自己的无知，自己的 自私，自己的形象去显现的一切吗？？？？所谓的自然，不过是人类向外投射的自我形象，一个无比自恋，自满， 自欺欺人的自我形象而已。什么无为的自然而然，就是一个完全按照人类自身弱点而放任自我自然而然的过时思想 。
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Originally Posted by Mortimer
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