Croatia 400AD

**Annihilus** · 12-29-2022, 06:35 PM

What do we know about Croatia during that time? I noticed an ancient dna sample turned out R-F1019* which my my haplo.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-94932-9

**Ajeje Brazorf** · 12-29-2022, 07:32 PM

Samples from that period.

Code:

HRV_Sisak_Pogorelec:R2041__AD_303__Coverage_47.99%,0.112685,0.144205,0.010559,-0.021964,0.026466,-0.005857,0.003995,-0.001615,-0.005727,0.017677,0.003897,0.001948,-0.008622,-0.016928,-0.009093,0.001061,0.004433,0.003167,-0.004525,-0.001251,-0.004742,0.002473,0.005916,-0.001566,0.006945
HRV_Scitarjevo:R3659__AD_311__Coverage_42.44%,0.122929,0.153345,0.026021,0,0.024928,-0.009203,-0.003055,-0.004615,0.011658,0.016401,0.006658,0.008692,-0.015015,-0.005092,-0.001357,-0.009944,-0.005085,0.0019,0.006285,-0.011631,-0.004866,0.000989,-0.008134,-0.004699,0.004311
HRV_Sisak_Pogorelec:R2042__AD_322__Coverage_43.20%,0.091058,0.150298,-0.001131,-0.053295,0.022466,-0.022311,-0.001175,-0.000923,0.019225,0.014579,-0.000974,-0.003447,0.004311,-0.008945,0.006515,-0.00411,0.008866,-0.004687,-0.000377,-0.007128,-0.00262,0.00507,-0.001602,-0.003253,0.000838
HRV_Sisak_Pogorelec:R2040__AD_325__Coverage_44.26%,0.1161,0.150298,0.023759,-0.011951,0.029236,-0.005578,0.00517,0.002769,0.001841,0.018041,0.004709,0.01124,-0.009217,-0.004404,-0.002579,-0.011403,0.002086,0.002407,0.01433,-0.012256,-0.002246,0.005193,-0.000493,0.006748,-0.000599
SRB_Beska:R6688__AD_325__Coverage_48.63%,0.124067,0.126941,0.051288,0.029716,0.020927,0.008925,0.00094,0.007615,0.003068,-0.003462,-0.005521,-0.007493,0.008474,0.000413,0.001357,0.010872,0.017863,-0.004561,0.009302,0.005753,-0.003743,-0.001484,0.008504,0.009881,0.008861
SRB_Naissus:R6764__AD_334__Coverage_60.59%,0.120652,0.161469,0.017725,-0.031008,0.040315,-0.018128,0.000705,-0.000923,0.005727,0.037358,0.007307,0.013638,-0.016799,0.003303,-0.019001,0.006364,0.029597,-0.00038,0.010936,-0.004627,-0.007237,-0.002968,-0.006779,-0.004217,-0.010538
SRB_Beska:R6681__AD_341__Coverage_61.91%,0.119514,0.11577,0.045632,0.02907,0.018157,0.011713,0.00564,0.003231,0.001841,-0.006378,-0.002923,0.004346,-0.003419,-0.008945,0.004479,0.001061,0.003781,-0.001774,0.012821,0.004627,-0.012353,-0.001855,0.007888,0.002048,-0.001676
HRV_Pop_RomanP:POP23__AD_364__Coverage_81.69%,0.120652,0.116786,0.033564,0.02261,0.022773,0.011713,-0.001175,0.004384,0.003068,0.002005,0.001137,0.006145,-0.003865,-0.007432,0.0019,0.016176,0.011343,-0.003421,0.005908,-0.002876,-0.004866,-0.000742,0.005053,0.004097,0.001317
HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2053__AD_438__Coverage_62.88%,0.114961,0.152329,0.020365,-0.015827,0.014772,-0.003904,-0.009635,0.000462,0.016566,0.02041,0.003735,3.00E-04,-0.00996,0.002064,-0.008143,-0.019888,-0.009127,-0.004181,0.006788,-0.012381,-0.007861,-0.001113,0.005916,0.004458,0.003473
HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2050__AD_475__Coverage_56.85%,0.112685,0.148267,-0.001886,-0.0323,0.017849,-0.018965,0.001645,-0.004615,0.005727,0.019317,-0.002273,3.00E-04,-0.015609,0.005092,-0.007057,-0.00358,-0.001043,0.006714,0.011313,-0.016633,-0.009733,-0.005564,0.000986,-0.004338,-0.000359
HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2051__AD_475__Coverage_46.34%,0.119514,0.153345,0.012068,-0.033592,0.032314,-0.008646,0.00235,0.006,0.007567,0.02934,-0.003573,0.002098,-0.017393,-0.003028,-0.011265,-0.014717,0.000913,-0.011022,0.010307,0.000125,-0.024831,0.007296,-0.002835,0.007832,-0.006227
HRV_Gardun:R3545__AD_484__Coverage_53.99%,0.097888,0.023357,0.015839,-0.014535,0.002154,-0.003626,0.003055,0.001154,-0.002045,0.000729,-0.005196,0.006294,-0.003717,-0.002477,0.001357,-0.018563,-0.015385,-0.002154,0.005279,0.008129,-0.005116,0.007543,-0.00949,-0.000723,0.001557
HRV_Scitarjevo:R3660__AD_494__Coverage_47.24%,0.136588,0.135065,0.065619,0.057817,0.047393,0.017291,0.015276,0.011538,-0.007158,-0.006014,-0.003735,0.002847,0.00669,-0.002202,0.025651,0.009812,-0.014733,-0.000507,0.006159,0.004877,0.008984,-0.002349,0.000246,0.021087,0.003592
HRV_Velic:R3685__AD_500__Coverage_54.42%,0.117238,0.146236,0,-0.027778,0.017849,-0.020638,-0.00329,-0.006692,-0.000818,0.021868,-0.000325,0.003897,-0.018434,-0.001514,-0.009908,0.009944,0.011474,-0.003421,0.00264,-0.002501,-0.004866,-0.004081,-0.002958,0.004699,-0.001557

Code:

Distanceto:	HRV_Sisak_Pogorelec:R2041__AD_303__Coverage_47.99%
0.02695614	Italian_Umbria
0.02741511	Italian_Tuscany
0.02798642	Italian_Marche
0.02874078	Italian_Lazio
0.02948084	Italian_Emilia

Distanceto:	HRV_Scitarjevo:R3659__AD_311__Coverage_42.44%
0.02812142	Italian_Piedmont
0.02847698	Italian_Bergamo
0.03109264	Italian_Veneto
0.03122717	Italian_Lombardy
0.03147436	Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige

Distanceto:	HRV_Sisak_Pogorelec:R2042__AD_322__Coverage_43.20%
0.02977868	Maltese
0.03127884	Ashkenazi_Germany
0.03214218	Italian_Jew
0.03396208	Sicilian_West
0.03412379	Italian_Calabria

Distanceto:	HRV_Sisak_Pogorelec:R2040__AD_325__Coverage_44.26%
0.02362906	Italian_Emilia
0.02377156	Italian_Piedmont
0.02595307	Italian_Bergamo
0.02671106	Italian_Tuscany
0.02709694	Italian_Lombardy

Distanceto:	SRB_Beska:R6688__AD_325__Coverage_48.63%
0.03481006	Hungarian
0.03495019	Austrian
0.03575957	Bosnian
0.03660397	Croatian
0.03789248	Moldovan

Distanceto:	SRB_Naissus:R6764__AD_334__Coverage_60.59%
0.04201638	French_Corsica
0.04628692	Albanian
0.04871059	Italian_Umbria
0.04879238	Italian_Tuscany
0.04937062	Greek_Corinthia

Distanceto:	SRB_Beska:R6681__AD_341__Coverage_61.91%
0.03740994	Austrian
0.03882051	Hungarian
0.03924897	Moldovan
0.04020382	Afrikaner
0.04140266	German_Erlangen

Distanceto:	HRV_Pop_RomanP:POP23__AD_364__Coverage_81.69%
0.03851982	Montenegrin
0.03908811	Romanian
0.03993444	Moldovan
0.04100272	Austrian
0.04344566	Serbian

Distanceto:	HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2053__AD_438__Coverage_62.88%
0.03281018	Greek_Thessaly
0.03350386	Italian_Liguria
0.03564438	Italian_Tuscany
0.03619002	Italian_Emilia
0.03651495	Greek_Macedonia

Distanceto:	HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2050__AD_475__Coverage_56.85%
0.02462668	Italian_Apulia
0.02587008	Italian_Abruzzo
0.02628445	Italian_Molise
0.02703820	Italian_Basilicata
0.02767189	Greek_North_Tsakonia

Distanceto:	HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2051__AD_475__Coverage_46.34%
0.03862325	Italian_Tuscany
0.03887603	Italian_Marche
0.03897040	Italian_Lazio
0.03933176	Italian_Umbria
0.03994571	Italian_Lombardy

Distanceto:	HRV_Gardun:R3545__AD_484__Coverage_53.99%
0.06043637	Turkish_Balikesir
0.06124097	Turkish_Northwest
0.06852100	Turkish_Aydin
0.07197816	Turkish_Southwest
0.07340116	Turkish_South

Distanceto:	HRV_Scitarjevo:R3660__AD_494__Coverage_47.24%
0.02792128	Icelandic
0.02908293	Danish
0.02994510	Swedish
0.03202556	Norwegian
0.03465739	Shetlandic

Distanceto:	HRV_Velic:R3685__AD_500__Coverage_54.42%
0.02531694	Italian_Umbria
0.02584742	Greek_Izmir
0.02608584	Italian_Abruzzo
0.02631390	Greek_Cyclades_Kea
0.02647106	Italian_Molise

**Jingle Bell** · 12-29-2022, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf

Samples from that period.

Code:

HRV_Sisak_Pogorelec:R2041__AD_303__Coverage_47.99%,0.112685,0.144205,0.010559,-0.021964,0.026466,-0.005857,0.003995,-0.001615,-0.005727,0.017677,0.003897,0.001948,-0.008622,-0.016928,-0.009093,0.001061,0.004433,0.003167,-0.004525,-0.001251,-0.004742,0.002473,0.005916,-0.001566,0.006945
HRV_Scitarjevo:R3659__AD_311__Coverage_42.44%,0.122929,0.153345,0.026021,0,0.024928,-0.009203,-0.003055,-0.004615,0.011658,0.016401,0.006658,0.008692,-0.015015,-0.005092,-0.001357,-0.009944,-0.005085,0.0019,0.006285,-0.011631,-0.004866,0.000989,-0.008134,-0.004699,0.004311
HRV_Sisak_Pogorelec:R2042__AD_322__Coverage_43.20%,0.091058,0.150298,-0.001131,-0.053295,0.022466,-0.022311,-0.001175,-0.000923,0.019225,0.014579,-0.000974,-0.003447,0.004311,-0.008945,0.006515,-0.00411,0.008866,-0.004687,-0.000377,-0.007128,-0.00262,0.00507,-0.001602,-0.003253,0.000838
HRV_Sisak_Pogorelec:R2040__AD_325__Coverage_44.26%,0.1161,0.150298,0.023759,-0.011951,0.029236,-0.005578,0.00517,0.002769,0.001841,0.018041,0.004709,0.01124,-0.009217,-0.004404,-0.002579,-0.011403,0.002086,0.002407,0.01433,-0.012256,-0.002246,0.005193,-0.000493,0.006748,-0.000599
SRB_Beska:R6688__AD_325__Coverage_48.63%,0.124067,0.126941,0.051288,0.029716,0.020927,0.008925,0.00094,0.007615,0.003068,-0.003462,-0.005521,-0.007493,0.008474,0.000413,0.001357,0.010872,0.017863,-0.004561,0.009302,0.005753,-0.003743,-0.001484,0.008504,0.009881,0.008861
SRB_Naissus:R6764__AD_334__Coverage_60.59%,0.120652,0.161469,0.017725,-0.031008,0.040315,-0.018128,0.000705,-0.000923,0.005727,0.037358,0.007307,0.013638,-0.016799,0.003303,-0.019001,0.006364,0.029597,-0.00038,0.010936,-0.004627,-0.007237,-0.002968,-0.006779,-0.004217,-0.010538
SRB_Beska:R6681__AD_341__Coverage_61.91%,0.119514,0.11577,0.045632,0.02907,0.018157,0.011713,0.00564,0.003231,0.001841,-0.006378,-0.002923,0.004346,-0.003419,-0.008945,0.004479,0.001061,0.003781,-0.001774,0.012821,0.004627,-0.012353,-0.001855,0.007888,0.002048,-0.001676
HRV_Pop_RomanP:POP23__AD_364__Coverage_81.69%,0.120652,0.116786,0.033564,0.02261,0.022773,0.011713,-0.001175,0.004384,0.003068,0.002005,0.001137,0.006145,-0.003865,-0.007432,0.0019,0.016176,0.011343,-0.003421,0.005908,-0.002876,-0.004866,-0.000742,0.005053,0.004097,0.001317
HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2053__AD_438__Coverage_62.88%,0.114961,0.152329,0.020365,-0.015827,0.014772,-0.003904,-0.009635,0.000462,0.016566,0.02041,0.003735,3.00E-04,-0.00996,0.002064,-0.008143,-0.019888,-0.009127,-0.004181,0.006788,-0.012381,-0.007861,-0.001113,0.005916,0.004458,0.003473
HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2050__AD_475__Coverage_56.85%,0.112685,0.148267,-0.001886,-0.0323,0.017849,-0.018965,0.001645,-0.004615,0.005727,0.019317,-0.002273,3.00E-04,-0.015609,0.005092,-0.007057,-0.00358,-0.001043,0.006714,0.011313,-0.016633,-0.009733,-0.005564,0.000986,-0.004338,-0.000359
HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2051__AD_475__Coverage_46.34%,0.119514,0.153345,0.012068,-0.033592,0.032314,-0.008646,0.00235,0.006,0.007567,0.02934,-0.003573,0.002098,-0.017393,-0.003028,-0.011265,-0.014717,0.000913,-0.011022,0.010307,0.000125,-0.024831,0.007296,-0.002835,0.007832,-0.006227
HRV_Gardun:R3545__AD_484__Coverage_53.99%,0.097888,0.023357,0.015839,-0.014535,0.002154,-0.003626,0.003055,0.001154,-0.002045,0.000729,-0.005196,0.006294,-0.003717,-0.002477,0.001357,-0.018563,-0.015385,-0.002154,0.005279,0.008129,-0.005116,0.007543,-0.00949,-0.000723,0.001557
HRV_Scitarjevo:R3660__AD_494__Coverage_47.24%,0.136588,0.135065,0.065619,0.057817,0.047393,0.017291,0.015276,0.011538,-0.007158,-0.006014,-0.003735,0.002847,0.00669,-0.002202,0.025651,0.009812,-0.014733,-0.000507,0.006159,0.004877,0.008984,-0.002349,0.000246,0.021087,0.003592
HRV_Velic:R3685__AD_500__Coverage_54.42%,0.117238,0.146236,0,-0.027778,0.017849,-0.020638,-0.00329,-0.006692,-0.000818,0.021868,-0.000325,0.003897,-0.018434,-0.001514,-0.009908,0.009944,0.011474,-0.003421,0.00264,-0.002501,-0.004866,-0.004081,-0.002958,0.004699,-0.001557

Code:

Distanceto:	HRV_Sisak_Pogorelec:R2041__AD_303__Coverage_47.99%
0.02695614	Italian_Umbria
0.02741511	Italian_Tuscany
0.02798642	Italian_Marche
0.02874078	Italian_Lazio
0.02948084	Italian_Emilia

Distanceto:	HRV_Scitarjevo:R3659__AD_311__Coverage_42.44%
0.02812142	Italian_Piedmont
0.02847698	Italian_Bergamo
0.03109264	Italian_Veneto
0.03122717	Italian_Lombardy
0.03147436	Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige

Distanceto:	HRV_Sisak_Pogorelec:R2042__AD_322__Coverage_43.20%
0.02977868	Maltese
0.03127884	Ashkenazi_Germany
0.03214218	Italian_Jew
0.03396208	Sicilian_West
0.03412379	Italian_Calabria

Distanceto:	HRV_Sisak_Pogorelec:R2040__AD_325__Coverage_44.26%
0.02362906	Italian_Emilia
0.02377156	Italian_Piedmont
0.02595307	Italian_Bergamo
0.02671106	Italian_Tuscany
0.02709694	Italian_Lombardy

Distanceto:	SRB_Beska:R6688__AD_325__Coverage_48.63%
0.03481006	Hungarian
0.03495019	Austrian
0.03575957	Bosnian
0.03660397	Croatian
0.03789248	Moldovan

Distanceto:	SRB_Naissus:R6764__AD_334__Coverage_60.59%
0.04201638	French_Corsica
0.04628692	Albanian
0.04871059	Italian_Umbria
0.04879238	Italian_Tuscany
0.04937062	Greek_Corinthia

Distanceto:	SRB_Beska:R6681__AD_341__Coverage_61.91%
0.03740994	Austrian
0.03882051	Hungarian
0.03924897	Moldovan
0.04020382	Afrikaner
0.04140266	German_Erlangen

Distanceto:	HRV_Pop_RomanP:POP23__AD_364__Coverage_81.69%
0.03851982	Montenegrin
0.03908811	Romanian
0.03993444	Moldovan
0.04100272	Austrian
0.04344566	Serbian

Distanceto:	HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2053__AD_438__Coverage_62.88%
0.03281018	Greek_Thessaly
0.03350386	Italian_Liguria
0.03564438	Italian_Tuscany
0.03619002	Italian_Emilia
0.03651495	Greek_Macedonia

Distanceto:	HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2050__AD_475__Coverage_56.85%
0.02462668	Italian_Apulia
0.02587008	Italian_Abruzzo
0.02628445	Italian_Molise
0.02703820	Italian_Basilicata
0.02767189	Greek_North_Tsakonia

Distanceto:	HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2051__AD_475__Coverage_46.34%
0.03862325	Italian_Tuscany
0.03887603	Italian_Marche
0.03897040	Italian_Lazio
0.03933176	Italian_Umbria
0.03994571	Italian_Lombardy

Distanceto:	HRV_Gardun:R3545__AD_484__Coverage_53.99%
0.06043637	Turkish_Balikesir
0.06124097	Turkish_Northwest
0.06852100	Turkish_Aydin
0.07197816	Turkish_Southwest
0.07340116	Turkish_South

Distanceto:	HRV_Scitarjevo:R3660__AD_494__Coverage_47.24%
0.02792128	Icelandic
0.02908293	Danish
0.02994510	Swedish
0.03202556	Norwegian
0.03465739	Shetlandic

Distanceto:	HRV_Velic:R3685__AD_500__Coverage_54.42%
0.02531694	Italian_Umbria
0.02584742	Greek_Izmir
0.02608584	Italian_Abruzzo
0.02631390	Greek_Cyclades_Kea
0.02647106	Italian_Molise

strange, a sample which cluster in Turkey?

**Ajeje Brazorf** · 12-29-2022, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Jingle Bell

strange, a sample which cluster in Turkey?

R3545 seems to be some sort of Eurasian nomad, who because of East Eurasian admixture ends up taking modern Turks as the closest average. However, I consider individuals who have a distance greater than 0.03 from the average to be "distant".

Code:

Distanceto:	HRV_Gardun:R3545__AD_484__Coverage_53.99%
0.03095268	HUN_late_Avar:SZRV212__AD_750__Coverage_89.93%
0.03572884	HUN_middle_Avar:KDA520__AD_680__Coverage_81.57%
0.03945337	HUN_late_Avar:SZRV277__AD_750__Coverage_89.20%
0.04124949	HUN_middle_Avar:KDA188__AD_706__Coverage_94.65%
0.04291619	HUN_late_Avar:ARK11__AD_800__Coverage_92.50%
0.04471051	Turkish_Northwest:Turkish_Northwest10
0.04547624	HUN_late_Avar:SZRV67__AD_750__Coverage_87.43%
0.04610414	DEU_MA_ACD_Baiuvaric:AED_1108__AD_481__Coverage_11.16%