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    Greetings.



    First post in the forum. Heard you folks might help to interpret the results I got from my 23andme test.
    Paternal: R1a Z282
    Maternal: N1B1

    All I found is that this paternal haplogroup is quite rare in Turkey and is mostly found in Eastern Europe (Ukraine-Belarus-Russia mostly). So how did it end up here ? Or maybe it did mutate here and ended up there ? Need some insight.

    Or maybe I should extract the data from 23andme and upload it somewhere else to get more detailed results ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Togan View Post
    Greetings.

    First post in the forum. Heard you folks might help to interpret the results I got from my 23andme test.
    Paternal: R1a Z282
    Maternal: N1B1

    All I found is that this paternal haplogroup is quite rare in Turkey and is mostly found in Eastern Europe (Ukraine-Belarus-Russia mostly). So how did it end up here ? Or maybe it did mutate here and ended up there ? Need some insight.

    Or maybe I should extract the data from 23andme and upload it somewhere else to get more detailed results ?
    maybe a Slavic Ancestor brought to Turkey, it's quite common that some Turks have some Slavic ancestors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Togan View Post
    Greetings.

    First post in the forum. Heard you folks might help to interpret the results I got from my 23andme test.
    Paternal: R1a Z282
    Maternal: N1B1

    All I found is that this paternal haplogroup is quite rare in Turkey and is mostly found in Eastern Europe (Ukraine-Belarus-Russia mostly). So how did it end up here ? Or maybe it did mutate here and ended up there ? Need some insight.

    Or maybe I should extract the data from 23andme and upload it somewhere else to get more detailed results ?


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    Hoşgeldin,

    R1a is rare in Trkiye, but not that rare, something like 5%. And most of it is the european version (what you have)

    We have the same mtdna btw N1B1

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    Quote Originally Posted by eupator View Post
    Slavic Jannisary or converted ex-dhimmi.
    Janissary is a possibility as he is an Alevi Turk not Sunni. Hard to find out. Family was secretive in general like they did want to forget everything about past and look forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Togan View Post
    Greetings.

    First post in the forum. Heard you folks might help to interpret the results I got from my 23andme test.
    Paternal: R1a Z282
    Maternal: N1B1

    All I found is that this paternal haplogroup is quite rare in Turkey and is mostly found in Eastern Europe (Ukraine-Belarus-Russia mostly). So how did it end up here ? Or maybe it did mutate here and ended up there ? Need some insight.

    Or maybe I should extract the data from 23andme and upload it somewhere else to get more detailed results ?
    I am R1a-Z282 too.

    In general, it is usually considered an European Balto-Slavic hg, although there is a particular branch more tending towards Central Europe.

    Try uploading your raw data to cladefinder or to Morleys Ydna predictor, it might give you some extra information.

    Note that these predictors are subject to error and their results may need to be revised, so if you get a different hg from what you got with 23andMe, 23andMe's output would always be more reliable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    Hoşgeldin,

    R1a is rare in Trkiye, but not that rare, something like 5%. And most of it is the european version (what you have)

    We have the same mtdna btw N1B1
    Hoşbulduk!. N1B1 ! Nice to hear that. It seems to be common in Anatolia but I don't know much else about that either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Togan View Post
    Hoşbulduk!. N1B1 ! Nice to hear that. It seems to be common in Anatolia but I don't know much else about that either.
    Yes it's old and native

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    It is not quite rare. This is about how many samples do we have. My Y-DNA is also R1a-CTS3402. Anyway, where are your parents from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thracian View Post
    It is not quite rare. This is about how many samples do we have. My Y-DNA is also R1a-CTS3402. Anyway, where are your parents from?
    They were born in Sivas (due to relocation of late ottoman empire chaotic times) I heard more complicated stories where their parents came from. It is a bit of mystery. Instead of Sivas our genetics are centered heavily in Tunceli which is the actual central location my ancestors seem to be from. We accept ourselves as Alevi Turks.

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