Do Irish people pass better in Estonia or Spain?

[Gallop]

Because this is a European forum and Spain is a European country. Or do you want them to talk about Morocco?

Anyway, to answer this thread, I'd go with Estonia!

Well, let's stick with Estonian olive oil.

[Grace O'Malley]

Spain, a lot of Irish have thick dark eyebrows which look very woggy for Estonia

And what about the much higher amount of Irish with non thick dark eyebrows? Some of the stuff you come out with is just daft.

Irish also have the highest percentage of Skin Type I and II in Europe (in that most of the population is that type) and one of the higher percentages of blue eyes and red hair in a population. I think facial features are also something that needs to be taken into consideration. It all adds up to populations being more distinct from each other.

There is one person in this picture who I can see most probably has ancestry outside of Ireland. I'm sure it is obvious to most people.

[Cristiano viejo]

Yes, the Irish-Iberia myth continues to exist no matter what evidence you throw at those who continue to believe it.

Its usually pushed by those who hold anti Irish prejudices. Ulster loyalists continue to push it as do many English ethnonationalists.

And I understand that the Irish think that is a compliment.

So powerful is the belief that I reckon if you started a poll with who's closer to the Irish, England or Spain, most people would probably pick Spain!

Perhaps that happens in Ireland or England, not in Spain. Here Irish are seen as foreigners as Russians or Vietnamese could be and none, absolutely none thinks we have something in common.

[Ruggery]

And I understand that the Irish think that is a compliment.



Perhaps that happens in Ireland or England, not in Spain. Here Irish are seen as foreigners as Russians or Vietnamese could be and none, absolutely none thinks we have something in common.

Only some Galicians

[Grace O'Malley]

And I understand that the Irish think that is a compliment.



Perhaps that happens in Ireland or England, not in Spain. Here Irish are seen as foreigners as Russians or Vietnamese could be and none, absolutely none thinks we have something in common.

There are some Irish that still think they have some Spanish because of the Armada Myth. Irish have a positive opinion of Spain and many Irish like the idea of having some link to another country like Spain. There was also the Oppenheimer study which erroneously thought R1b came from the Ice Age and was holed up in the Franco-Cantabrian refuge and from there spread to the rest of Europe. So you will still get people that think the Insular Celts and Basque are closely related and many people think that Basques are the closest population to the Irish. They just aren't aware of later studies refuting this. This is where a lot of this stuff comes from and is still in circulation.

Generally most people have little knowledge of genetics or history for that matter. Most Irish and Spanish have no issues and from my experience countries like Spain and France are looked on positively in Ireland. There is no baggage with these countries like there is with Ireland's closest neighbour Britain. Now that is a complicated relationship. Even in that case most Irish and British get along fine.

Ireland has never had the complicated and difficult relationship that Britain and France have had. The Irish also are very much apart of the EU these days and have good relations with all EU countries.

[Creoda]

And I understand that the Irish think that is a compliment.

It wouldn't be used to troll the Irish if it was a compliment.

[Grace O'Malley]

It wouldn't be used to troll the Irish if it was a compliment.

Don't be stirring up trouble Creoda.

In all honesty Irish and Spanish like each other. This forum gives a bad view of all populations with the way people carry on.

This girl is from a Spanish/Irish union and I think she is lovely.

[Anglo-Celtic]

This Spanish girl looks like a Spanish version of Marisa Tomei, lol

My last immigrant ancestor came from the Republic of Ireland, but I share her coloring. It must be my 2% Sicilian ancestry.

[Grace O'Malley]

My last immigrant ancestor came from the Republic of Ireland, but I share her coloring. It must be my 2% Sicilian ancestry.

Her colouring looks average for Europeans. By that I mean she isn't dark. She's very pretty. Not all Irish are lily white either. There are some with darker colouring it is just that it is less common but you do get variance in all populations.

[Mortimer]

Yes, the Irish-Iberia myth continues to exist no matter what evidence you throw at those who continue to believe it.

Its usually pushed by those who hold anti Irish prejudices. Ulster loyalists continue to push it as do many English ethnonationalists.

So powerful is the belief that I reckon if you started a poll with who's closer to the Irish, England or Spain, most people would probably pick Spain!

In my opinion the Irish are the same as the British or English, the divide is superficial I think both are celto-germanic, the irish have some scandinavian and such too, maybe the english very slightly more but both are a mix of germanic and celtic, and they are to me the same. To me the British Isles is the same.