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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Sure, I can I've heard about many other "coincidences" too, but if these two don't convince you, the other probably wouldn't too. Anyway Vadim Shegalov's researches are published in western languages too.


    And how did they count the probability of our existence? did they ask the devil personally to get that figure, by chance?
    I'm just skeptical by nature, doesn't mean I don't find this interesting (I was being serious).

    And as a sceptic, you should know that I wouldn't ask the devil This is where I got that number from:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutarch View Post
    This is retarded. Your numbers are arbitrary. Why not use the Olympiad or the foundation of the City or the Julian or the Diocletian or the Hijri era, instead? Provide a justification for your method and computation.
    Arbitrary? You sound unfamiliar with what world wars were and how many of them were there. Well, I educate you here: both of them are listed in the OP. And this is already quite a "coincidence".
    The only arbitrary part is the case of the invasion of Ukraine but considering the global impact of what it has done already, it has a lot to do with the first two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutarch View Post
    Actually less retarded because these numbers reflect things in reality. OP uses days, but why solar days? Uses years, but when does our orbital period begin or end? It’s all arbitrary.
    What is there in the OP is not science, you dumbass. Take it whatever way you like. As for myself there's a limit to certain coincidences that I'm inclined to take as random.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    I'm just skeptical by nature, doesn't mean I don't find this interesting (I was being serious).

    And as a sceptic, you should know that I wouldn't ask the devil This is where I got that number from:
    I didn't exactly mean you asking the devil, Bras I meant those who provide figures like this one. Sure the couldn't get the figure in a truly scientific way because they know too little for such calculations. In this case the calculations of Ali Binazir can't be taken for anything but a joke.

    Anyway, the point is two of the two world wars' dates gave the same figure when the same simple algorithm was applied to them. Two of the two is 100%. And the number of such simple algorithms is very limited. Much unlike the almost unlimited number in the example of Ali Binazir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    As a curiosity and since we are talking about numbers, the probability of our existence is 1 in 10^2,685,000.
    First, I thought by "the probability of our existence" you meant the existence of humanity. But since it's a single human life the comparison makes even less sense as there are billions of humans and only two of the world wars and 100% of the starting dates of those world wars follow the same algorithm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    What is there in the OP is not science, you dumbass. Take it whatever way you like. As for myself there's a limit to certain coincidences that I'm inclined to take as random.
    You’re dumb. Answer my question, and explain how OP’s computation makes sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    the probability of our existence is 1 in 10^2,685,000.
    This is impossible. There are three possibilities for our existence. If we ignore our obvious cause, then it must be said that we are caused by a deterministic natural mechanism or by an indeterministic probability process. In the former there’s no probability, while the latter is impossible because, then, whatever selected our existence in that process was itself also selected through an indeterministic probability process and we would end up in an infinite regression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutarch View Post
    You’re dumb. Answer my question, and explain how OP’s computation makes sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by Plutarch View Post
    This is retarded. Your numbers are arbitrary. Why not use the Olympiad or the foundation of the City or the Julian or the Diocletian or the Hijri era, instead? Provide a justification for your method and computation.
    Your examples of the Olympiad and foundation has two different events. My example has two events named as world wars and they are all of this kind that there were. I. e. they are 100% of world wars. Are you that stupid not to see that difference or just trolling?

    Concerning the computations I think I've provided enough of such. And those who can't see that the chance of such "coincidences" is extremely low probably don't need to know that much anyway.
    You're free to do your own calculation though.
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    Plutarch, I'm ready to calculate the exact chance of such a "coincidence" for you. But you pay first.
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