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    I think they migrated from descendants of Natufians, or maybe Egyptians(haplogroup E carriers).
    Since there aren't Myceneans, samples seem to suggest they came right before the Dark Ages. And later they expanded to all of Europe during the Roman Empire.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Miko View Post
    I think they migrated from descendants of Natufians, or maybe Egyptians(haplogroup E carriers).
    Since there aren't Myceneans, samples seem to suggest they came right before the Dark Ages. And later they expanded to all of Europe during the Roman Empire.
    Interesting insight. Maybe E-V13 has something to do with the Pelasgians? How do you think Albanians got this haplogroup though? Are Proto-Albanians originally a Pelasgian tribe (represented by E-V13) that has assimilated and mixed with various Thraco-Illyrian groups (represented by R1b-Z2103 and J2b2-L283)? Perhaps they were the opposite? That is a Thraco-Illyrian population that has absorbed a Pelasgian element (probably in Roman times) before the Slavic invasions of the Balkans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power77 View Post
    How about Hellenized Egyptians (or Phoenicians) during the Classical period?
    That's very possible, or something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power77 View Post
    So you think the first E-V13 carriers came to Europe as Negroes and/or Mulattoes?
    Absolutely not!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Africa, as any branch of haplogroup E.
    Not all branches originated in Africa. E-V13 doesn't seem to have.
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    The Arab branch came from the Romans as Arab branch is very young at 1500 years

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY5786/

    This is Roman branch ~4700 years old

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-CTS1273/

    This is Balkan branch ~4400 years old

    Balkan Branch is absolutely massive

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY3880/
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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post

    Balkan Branch is absolutely massive

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY3880/

    Are you sure this is "Balkan branch"? There are people everywhere.
    E-BY148067 paternal
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    Quote Originally Posted by hazmatnik View Post
    Are you sure this is "Balkan branch"? There are people everywhere.
    Pretty confident considering the age of samples the downstream is enormous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Pretty confident considering the age of samples the downstream is enormous.
    So we were seeding people from UAE to Morocco, i would be proud of that (since both of my branches are below BY3880) but i think they cycled many many times around and came back with many other people.
    E-BY148067 paternal
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    Quote Originally Posted by hazmatnik View Post
    So we were seeding people from UAE to Morocco, i would be proud of that (since both of my branches are below BY3880) but i think they cycled many many times around and came back with many other people.
    Very possible your guess is as good as mine what happened 4000 to 1000 years ago.
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