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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    The western media are Serbophobic in last 30 years.
    The crimes committed against the Serbs in the Balkans were hushed up or relativized.
    This recent crime is again ignored in western media.
    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Albanians in Kosovo kill, expel and discriminate Serbs for centuries (since Ottoman time). In modern period their crimes are the most intense since 1999. when NATO occupied Kosovo. USA, Germany and UK are direct sponsors and protectors of Albanian extremism and chauvinism in Kosovo.

    These and many other crimes against Serbs in Kosovo committed by Albanians happened since Kosovo is protectorate of western powers!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staro_Gracko_massacre
    https://www.srbija.gov.rs/kosovo-metohija/en/8923
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podujevo_bus_bombing
    Nobody in the west cares for Serbian victims in Kosovo, Krajina, Bosnia, for 500.000 Iraqi children killed by Americans, for Russian victims in Donbass and rest of Ukraine. But collective west sheds crocodile tears for Ukrainian victims. They don't care for Ukrainians as well, just use them as a tool against Russians as they used and still use Albanians as tool against Serbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Albanians in Kosovo kill, expel and discriminate Serbs for centuries (since Ottoman time). In modern period their crimes are the most intense since 1999. when NATO occupied Kosovo. USA, Germany and UK are direct sponsors and protectors of Albanian extremism and chauvinism in Kosovo.

    These and many other crimes against Serbs in Kosovo committed by Albanians happened since Kosovo is protectorate of western powers!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staro_Gracko_massacre
    https://www.srbija.gov.rs/kosovo-metohija/en/8923
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podujevo_bus_bombing
    There is no evidence of any expulsion or genocide on Serbs in Kosovo by Albanians throughout the Ottoman period, we don't really care about your fake history and false accusations since ethnic identity back then did not exist in the way it does today so the narrative that you are painting here is impossible for such periods, mainly a conflict that started in the 19th-20th century during the rise of nationalism in the Balkans and state formation processes, it was started by Serbia in the 1870s during expulsion of Albanians and most of the crimes were committed by your people in Nish , Morava Valley, Macedonia and in Kosovo which led to revenge attacks on Serbs and Serbs moved to independent Serbia


    The guy who did this got arrested, we don't need people like this and luckily both of the victims survived, there are extremists on both sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake_ View Post
    There is no evidence of any expulsion or genocide on Serbs in Kosovo by Albanians throughout the Ottoman period, we don't really care about your fake history and false accusations since ethnic identity back then did not exist in the way it does today so the narrative that you are painting here is impossible for such periods, mainly a conflict that started in the 19th-20th century during the rise of nationalism in the Balkans and state formation processes, it was started by Serbia in the 1870s during expulsion of Albanians and most of the crimes were committed by your people in Nish , Morava Valley, Macedonia and in Kosovo which led to revenge attacks on Serbs and Serbs moved to independent Serbia


    The guy who did this got arrested, we don't need people like this and luckily both of the victims survived, there are extremists on both sides
    For massacre in Staro Gracko are guilty Serbs, for March pogrom in 2004. are guilty Serbs, for Pudujevo bus bombing are guilty Serbs? Actually Serbs killed and expelled Serbs, Albanian have nothing to do with that, right?

    From 1879. to 1910. about 150.000 Serbs moved from Kosovo to central Serbia because of Albanian crimes and pressure. Central Serbia in that time was independent, and Kosovo was still part of Ottoman empire. As Muslims Albanians in Kosovo in Ottoman period were privileged, and their crimes against Serbs and other Christians were tolerated.

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    Kosova gained absolute Albanian majority after expulsion of Albanians in the 1870s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expu...7%E2%80%931878

    Thats when this whole Kosovo thing started, would of been avoided had the region not been occupied by Serbia in the first place


    That this is supposed to be some kind of ethno nationalist conflict that goes back to the early Ottoman period is nothing but some BS fairytale created by Serbian chauvunists in the 19th century

    Its important for you for Serbs to have their rights but the rights of other people don't matter, not even rights of Hungarians in Vojvodina were respected

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    The attacker who shot the Serbian civilians and children on Christmas Eve, works as a policeman in the "Kosovo police".
    Police that supposed to ensure security??!
    Creepy and horrible.
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake_ View Post
    Kosova gained absolute Albanian majority after expulsion of Albanians in the 1870s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expu...7%E2%80%931878

    Thats when this whole Kosovo thing started, would of been avoided had the region not been occupied by Serbia in the first place
    Problems in Kosovo started few centuries ago when in Ottoman time Albanians from modern northern Albania settled in Kosovo and converted to Islam. Since then, islamized Albanians oppress Serbs.

    In 1876-78 Serbia was in war against Ottomans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia...ar_(1876-1878)
    Albanian population of Toplica and surrounding areas was on Ottoman side and they fight against Serbs for Ottomans. When Serbs defeated Ottoman-Albanian army and liberated that parts, most of the Albanians moved to Kosovo which was still Ottoman. Because they did not want to live in non-Muslim country.

    That this is supposed to be some kind of ethno nationalist conflict that goes back to the early Ottoman period is nothing but some BS fairytale created by Serbian chauvunists in the 19th century

    Its important for you for Serbs to have their rights but the rights of other people don't matter, not even rights of Hungarians in Vojvodina were respected
    Serbs and Hungarians in Vojvodina in the last 10 years are probably in the best relations in previous several centuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    For massacre in Staro Gracko are guilty Serbs, for March pogrom in 2004. are guilty Serbs, for Pudujevo bus bombing are guilty Serbs? Actually Serbs killed and expelled Serbs, Albanian have nothing to do with that, right?

    From 1879. to 1910. about 150.000 Serbs moved from Kosovo to central Serbia because of Albanian crimes and pressure. Central Serbia in that time was independent, and Kosovo was still part of Ottoman empire. As Muslims Albanians in Kosovo in Ottoman period were privileged, and their crimes against Serbs and other Christians were tolerated.
    Yes, you also forgot to mention Panda Bar massacre which was done by Serbs by killing Serbian civilians so that they could blame Albanians.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panda_Bar_massacre

    Serbs were not forced to leave Kosovo in Ottoman period, they did it willingly since Serbia already gained indepedence and it would make more sense they would want to live in Serbia rather in Kosovo which was still under Ottoman Empire.

    Interesting how you didn't mention the expulsion of Albanians in 1877-1878 where nearly 100.000 Albanians were expelled from Serbia, so if they number of Albanians population grow at the time in Kosovo guess who takes the blame.

    During Balkan Wars between 10,000 and 25,000 Albanians were killed or died because of hunger and cold during that period. In addition to the massacres, some civilians had their lips and noses severed by serbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    Very sad, but expected and all kinds of this stuff will increase, devil will use any kind of tool and passions for attacks on Christians, through political, ethnical and other reasons.
    You can tell us more about that part since you are more familiar with what is Russia doing to Ukraine.

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    Interesting, Kosovo Albanians currently present in this forum live in the western countries. Same is with Kosovo Shiptars who were earlier present here and who are banned or not active. Shiptar dream that they will live like a kings without Serbia is broken long time ago. Kosovo together with Moldova and Ukraine is the poorest in Europe. Moldova and Ukraine are at least internationally recognized countries, unlike Kosovo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrashNick View Post
    Yes, you also forgot to mention Panda Bar massacre which was done by Serbs by killing Serbian civilians so that they could blame Albanians.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panda_Bar_massacre

    Serbs were not forced to leave Kosovo in Ottoman period, they did it willingly since Serbia already gained indepedence and it would make more sense they would want to live in Serbia rather in Kosovo which was still under Ottoman Empire.

    Interesting how you didn't mention the expulsion of Albanians in 1877-1878 where nearly 100.000 Albanians were expelled from Serbia, so if they number of Albanians population grow at the time in Kosovo guess who takes the blame.

    During Balkan Wars between 10,000 and 25,000 Albanians were killed or died because of hunger and cold during that period. In addition to the massacres, some civilians had their lips and noses severed by serbs.

    Why don't you condemn this violence against Serbian civilians in Kosovo committed by an Albanian policeman on Christmas?

    Serbs, like other Christian peoples in the Ottoman Empire, were second-class citizens and suffered violence from Ottoman privileged Muslims - in this case from Bosnian Muslims and Muslim Albanians in Kosovo.

    Hypocritical westerners will not support you forever, justifying all these crimes.
    Sooner or later, they will leave you, having their own problems.
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