Myths debunked by genetic studies.

[Jingle Bell]

That modern Iberians (Spaniards and Portuguese) are the result of a melting pot including lots of Moorish heritage, lol

The reality is that modern Iberians are almost the same people they were since the Bronze age. Mostly a mixture of Celts and ancient Iberians.

Any other contributions from later (Phoenician/Carthaginian, Roman, Greek, Moorish, Visigoth, Vandal, etc) were very peripheral and didn't alter much the Celtiberian primal mix.

Maybe more since IA, in BA the celts were only in NE Iberia
also Romans and Greeks had a significant genetic impact

"The impact of mobility from the Central/Eastern Mediterranean during the Classical period is also evident in 10 individuals from the 7th-8th centuries CE site of L’Esquerda in the northeast, who show a shift from the Iron Age population in the direction of present-day Italians and Greeks (Fig. 1D), accounting for approximately one quarter of their ancestry (Fig. 2C and table S17). The same shift is also observed in present-day populations from Iberia outside the Basque area and is plausibly a consequence of the Roman presence in Iberia, which had a profound cultural impact and, according to our data, a substantial genetic impact too."

[Eurafricanid]

"Iberians are not genetically Celts" Iberians are probably as Celtic, genetically, as South Slavs are Slavic.

[Jingle Bell]

"Iberians are not genetically Celts" Iberians are probably as Celtic, genetically, as South Slavs are Slavic.

I recommend use a Hallsttat Average instead gaul, Gauls maybe can be mixed with surrounding groups sometimes

CZE_Hallsttat_IA_Average,0.12830972727273,0.141804 90909091,0.05828218181818,0.02760181818182,0.04817 663636364,0.00491854545455,0.00502063636364,0.0053 7045454545,0.01347990909091,0.01552318181818,-0.00602327272727,0.00189381818182,-0.01023054545455,-0.00784445454545,0.00784718181818,0.00295318181818 ,0.00130372727273,0.00354736363636,0.0038509090909 1,0.00228509090909,0.00342572727273,0.003810909090 91,-0.00135572727273,-0.00534554545455,0.00103418181818

The distance with Hallsttat will be prob higher but we need use a "pure" celt sample

[Aspirin]

Ever been to Russia, Ukraine?

Yes, in both.

I never witnessed bad attitude towards Moldovans.

Moldovans were always discriminated by Russians.

[alnortedelsur]

"Iberians are not genetically Celts" Iberians are probably as Celtic, genetically, as South Slavs are Slavic.

I didn't say they are Celt, but mostly a mixture of Celts and ancient Iberians.

And even if Celts settled mostly in Central and Northern Iberian regions, all today's Spaniards and Portuguese (including Andalusians, Murcians, Balearics and what not) are very mixed with ancient Celts, since the internal population movements that took place during centuries through all history, spread all of those genes and make modern Spaniards and Portuguese the very uniform populations they are today, with no much genetic difference from north to south.

How much Slavic are southern Slavs, if I might ask?

Edit: Romans, Greeks, etc, left some input, but yet the Celt+Iberian contributions account for at least 80%, or even well above that percentage, of the gene pool of most Spanish regions.

[Victor]

Moldovans were always discriminated by Russians.

I know one girl from Soroca, authentic Moldovan, she worked here for years and then went away for one year to come back and get Russian citizenship. She feels perfect here, asked her did she think bout Romanian passport, she was like she has no desire to live in EU or Romania and she feels more comfortable in Russia, she said something like you said about Romanian attitude (probably bad experience).

You Moldovans are not Uzbeks and Tajiks, no one here treats you like some aliens. I think most of reasons when some of your people are seen as caricature rednecks (it happens) but any Russian with similar mentality may receive such reaction from urban citizens.

[Jingle Bell]

I didn't say they are Celt, but mostly a mixture of Celts and ancient Iberians.

And even if Celts settled mostly in Central and Northern Iberian regions, all today's Spaniards and Portuguese (including Andalusians, Murcians, Balearics and what not) are very mixed with ancient Celts, since the internal population movements that took place during centuries through all history, spread all of those genes and make modern Spaniards and Portuguese the very uniform populations they are today, with no much genetic difference from north to south.

How much Slavic are southern Slavs, if I might ask?

Edit: Romans, Greeks, etc, left some input, but yet the Celt+Iberian contributions account for at least 80%, or even well above that percentage, of the gene pool of most Spanish regions.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6436108
In that study we can that modern iberians are visiblly more East-Med like than ur ancestors, so i think Greco-Roman dna is no less than 15% IMO, we can find individuals scoring abt 25% - 35% in Roman Times to 8th CE

[dviz]

Of course, in places like Bucharest it was enough to open my mouth to see some sort of disgust towards me. Here clearly exist some discrimination towards Moldovans, and seems to be historically motivated, Wallachians always had a strong hate toward Moldovans, probably because of Moldovans being more successful through history. The main idea of being ruled by individuals from that region I find as a manifestation of some strong masochistic tendencies, this is like a Croat who want to be ruled by Bosniaks from Sarajevo or by Serbs from Belgrade because all of them speak same language, totally ignoring other aspects.

Hahaha, omg
There's a single reason people go to Bucharest: to make money. It's an extremely competitive place, nobody's gonna roll out the red carpet for you. There's not gonna be any handholding either. Most of the people in Bucharest are not Wallachians, they're Romanians from all over the place, and there's quite a few foreigners that assimilated in the past 100 years too. Yeah, Bucurestenii frown at anyone, including other Bucuresteni. Ask people from Craiova or Constanta (meaning, other Wallachians) what they feel about Bucharest and its inhabitants.

Dude, you need to recalibrate your sensitivity threshold, and stop hallucinating stories to explain your hurt feelings. No Wallachian was ever jealous on how successful were Moldovans 500 years ago, because they don't even know or care about, what the f.

[Victor]

Hahaha, omg
There's a single reason people go to Bucharest: to make money. It's an extremely competitive place, nobody's gonna roll out the red carpet for you. There's not gonna be any handholding either. Most of the people in Bucharest are not Wallachians, they're Romanians from all over the place, and there's quite a few foreigners that assimilated in the past 100 years too. Yeah, Bucurestenii frown at anyone, including other Bucuresteni. Ask people from Craiova or Constanta (meaning, other Wallachians) what they feel about Bucharest and its inhabitants.

Dude, you need to recalibrate your sensitivity threshold, and stop hallucinating stories to explain your hurt feelings. No Wallachian was ever jealous on how successful were Moldovans 500 years ago, because they don't even know or care about, what the f.

Sounds like Moscow, too. Competitive place where provincials win the race, not slow and "lazy" Muscovites. Same mentality, same thing may happen when people are making lolz at provincial accents. And its often yesterday provincials who make it towards newcomers when old Muscovites don't give a damn.

When it comes to labor migrants, the most often who mistreat Moldovans and others are their compatriots, "brigadiers" who imported them here and shear them, lie to them, getting most of $$$, wearing golden necklaces, leather jackets, driving some BMW and hanging out with Russian partners in restaurants, despising own people and their labour.

Now there's a tendency when old Muscovites move out of Moscow, selling or renting their property to provincials who crave for capital, want to be here at any cost. So, nowadays whole tension is between Muscovites in 2nd-3rd generation and newcomer ones . Real Muscovites are just spectators or even out of this show.

[Dorian]

Yes there is only one medieval , you can't for sure determined if there were more samples like that , we don't know if it's local or not , maybe this is outlier , in other hand you can determined Ancient ones , because they are all similar/same. expect 1 or 2 outliers , and one is Caucasian-like..

From all Modern Macedonian Samples around 300 , more than a half plots towards illyrians and Ancient Macedonians, there are not samples like Medieval one in Modern Macedonians.

Hey monkey there are no ancient samples from Macedonia ,they are PAEONIANS.Either way ,the actual Macedonian profile is irrelevant to your people's origins ,your non-Slavic ancestry is a mix of Thracian(as typical Bulgarians that you are) ,Illyrian(brought by Serb admix) ,Paeonian(native) ,Dacian(by Vlachs) ,Albanian and Anatolian.All these "half" samples that you are talking about are the less Slavic admixed samples that you cherrypick in your monkeyproject to seem more native and who are Vlach & Albanian admixed(recently or not) if not fully so.Not to mention that majority of gedmatch kits are low quality.