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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Albanian tribes (mostly Kelmendi) settled in Sandžak in 18th century from northern Albania
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pešter#History
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gusinje#History
    Yes, mostly Kelmendi and some other tribes. Nowhere does that indicate that were no Albanians in these areas prior to these settlements which there in fact were. There were newer inhabitants that came and there were older inhabitants. Same thing with Slavic families. Many Slavic families moved into Kosovo too. In the early Otoman period most new arrivals into Kosovo had Slavic names. In the Nahije of Pec overwhelming majority of new arrivals had Slavic names. There were also Orthodox Slavs that settled Kosovo in the 18th century and Vlachs from Greece. There were also Circassians, Gypsies etc etc.


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    They are descendants of Serbian settlers from 15th to 18th century from many regions south of Sava and Danube: Šumadija, Herzegovina, Bosnia, Raška, Kosovo, Montenegro, Macedonia, Shopluk, eastern Serbia etc.

    Vuk Isaković Serbian military commander in Austrian service in present day Vojvodina had roots from Shar mountain in southern Kosovo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuk_Isaković

    Serbian nobleman Stefan Štiljanović in Hungarian service in present day Vojvodina and Slavonia was from Paštrovići in coastal Montenegro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Štiljanović

    Pavle Bakić the last Serbian titular despot in Hungary (modern Vojvodina) was from Šumadija https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavle_Bakić

    Vojvodinian Serbs have tons of matches in Y DNA with both Dinaric Serbs and southern/Kosovo Serbs 300-500 years in the past.
    For example today is published result of Serb from Bačka (Vojvodina) with surname Tomić (Томић) whose surname in his village is recorded in 1772, and he carry haplotype of medieval Herzegovinian clan Mirilovići (Мириловићи) https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?t...4370#msg184370
    Mirilovići were Serbian medieval clan in vlach social status in eastern Herzegovina where they are first time recorded in 1366, they lived in this area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirilovići

    One of the most important Serbian figures in Vojvodina in the last 300 years Stefan Stratimirović also had Herzegovinian origin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan...and_appoinment
    One member of family Stratimirović from Novi Sad was tested few years ago, he belong to R1a-YP4278 and has matches with few Serbs from Trebinje area in Herzegovina.
    This is because there were some Kosovo Serbs that did go to Vojvodina. And there were even some Albanians that managed to escape there. The claim here is that all Vojvodina Serbs are supposed to be Kosovo Serbs including 40k regugees which is not even the case. Nobody is denying that were some refugees from Kosovo which there in fact were. But these were mainly people from Eastern Kosovo that did have a large Slavic population. There cannot be a mass exodus of another population from a region where they don't even make up the majority. Gora region did not have depopulation but kept most of it's Slavic population. Western Kosova had mostly an Albanian population. 40k refugees gathered in Belgrade, they came from all Serb inhabited lands, some of these came from Kosovo too that had managed to escape.


    Gorani match Albanians by Y-DNA too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mintack View Post
    The Iberian Peninsula being genetically homogeneous when in fact has more internal diversity than all of Northwestern Europe.
    i see more diverse genetically than Northern Italy and southern Italy ...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mintack View Post
    First of all that PCA lacks several Iberian populations like Basques.
    Second, everyone knows the Italian Peninsula is very heterogeneous so that's not a myth.
    there are more PCA



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mintack View Post
    This PCA shows that Iberian intravariability is greater than the one between Ireland and Russia. At least based on euclidean distances.
    Thanks for proving my point.
    do u have any G25 Iberian samples that i could use se we can do a better PCA


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    Far more of what old physical anthropologists like Coon wrote has been confirmed by genetics than debunked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikiingMallorcaSpain View Post
    i see more diverse genetically than Northern Italy and southern Italy ...

    I still think there's more of genetic diversity in north italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Far more of what old physical anthropologists like Coon wrote has been confirmed by genetics than debunked.
    Indeed. West Eurasians or Caucasoids do exist as a racial group, but obviously they're not homogenous or anything. Same can be said about Europeans as well.

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