Final Realistic Iberian Calculator

[Eurafricanid]

They had way more of an impact in Iberia than Phoenicians did.

Disagree massivelly, also the Phoenicians of Iberia category encompasses the Carthagenians, too.

[Marshall Theodore]

They had way more of an impact in Iberia than Phoenicians did.

Source?

[Daco Celtic]

Target: Daco_scaled
Distance: 2.1363% / 0.02136322
88.6 Proto-Celts
10.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
1.0 Imperial_Romans

With Gauls added
Target: Daco_scaled
Distance: 1.9702% / 0.01970205
45.6 Proto-Celts
39.8 Gauls
8.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
6.2 Imperial_Romans

Gauls added and Proto-Celts Replaced

Target: Daco_scaled
Distance: 2.1327% / 0.02132724
77.8 Gauls
19.2 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
3.0 Imperial_Romans

[Mingle]

Disagree massivelly, also the Phoenicians of Iberia category encompasses the Carthagenians, too.

I double checked Phoenician rule in Iberia and I guess I underestimated it. But still, did anyone do models to confirm that Germanics had no impact?

[DraviXi99]

I double checked Phoenician rule in Iberia and I guess I underestimated it. But still, did anyone do models to confirm that Germanics had no impact?

They had a great impact.

[Marshall Theodore]

I double checked Phoenician rule in Iberia and I guess I underestimated it. But still, did anyone do models to confirm that Germanics had no impact?

Vandals had no impact for sure, only Suebis in NW Iberia (Specially Galicia) and Visigothic did leave some minor genetic impact.

[Gaditanian]

They didn't leave a great or significant inpact in the Iberian DNA.

Well... this is a complex topic...

When the Germans entered to Hispania there were around 300,000 people, not only warriors, but also their own women, children and the elderly, in a Roman Hispania of around 4 million people.

They were small nations on the move in search of new lands to settle.

The Phoenicians, although they created several colonies, did not emigrate massive, but rather as traders.

In addition, we must take into account the phenomenon of the Reconquest, that is, from 711 until the expulsion of the Moors in the 17th century, there was a genetic replacement (today it would be called genocide), where millions of Hispanic Muslims had to leave their cities to territories not controlled by Christians, to finally have to leave to North Africa in the 17th century.

Bearing in mind that the Reconquest was initiated by descendants of the Visigoths (Don Pelayo), it is not remarkable that the descendants of those 300,000 people were replacing the old native populations, including those hispanian muslims with a strong Iberian component, replacemented for religious reasons.

This would partly explain why the Iberian Peninsula, despite its territory compared to other European countries of similar size such as France or Germany, has always had a considerably smaller population due to this exodus that occurred in the Reconquest.

[Beowulf]

Target: IvorixG25_Scaled
Distance: 2.4126% / 0.02412579
59.4 Proto-Celts
18.6 Iberia_BA
13.2 Berbers_&_Guanches
8.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans


with a visigothic sample:

Target: IvorixG25_Scaled
Distance: 2.3783% / 0.02378275
38.4 Proto-Celts
22.6 Iberia_BA
13.8 Visigoth
12.8 Berbers_&_Guanches
9.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
1.6 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
1.0 Imperial_Romans

my distances became a bit better i used a gothic sample from Poland Kowalewko, that was a old gothic settlement

edit: if anyone want to try the Visigothic sample here are the coords: Visigoth,0.134311,0.1320185,0.071276,0.0621775,0.0 424695,0.02259,0.0098705,0.0152305,0.002352,-0.00492,-0.005846,0.0060695,-0.008845,-0.0020645,0.0229365,0.0019885,-0.006845,0.0010135,0.0027655,0.0012505,0.0051785,0 .000309,-0.000863,0.0163275,-0.0038915

[Beowulf]

Father:

Target: papaK13
Distance: 0.4294% / 0.00429435
46.4 Iberia_BA
14.8 Proto-Celts
11.8 Visigoth
9.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
8.4 Imperial_Romans
6.6 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
2.6 Berbers_&_Guanches

without visigothic:
Target: papaK13
Distance: 0.4684% / 0.00468438
43.8 Iberia_BA
34.2 Proto-Celts
7.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
5.8 Imperial_Romans
5.2 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
3.2 Berbers_&_Guanches

[Grace O'Malley]

Target: IvorixG25_Scaled
Distance: 2.4126% / 0.02412579
59.4 Proto-Celts
18.6 Iberia_BA
13.2 Berbers_&_Guanches
8.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans


with a visigothic sample:

Target: IvorixG25_Scaled
Distance: 2.3783% / 0.02378275
38.4 Proto-Celts
22.6 Iberia_BA
13.8 Visigoth
12.8 Berbers_&_Guanches
9.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
1.6 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
1.0 Imperial_Romans

my distances became a bit better i used a gothic sample from Poland Kowalewko, that was a old gothic settlement

edit: if anyone want to try the Visigothic sample here are the coords: Visigoth,0.134311,0.1320185,0.071276,0.0621775,0.0 424695,0.02259,0.0098705,0.0152305,0.002352,-0.00492,-0.005846,0.0060695,-0.008845,-0.0020645,0.0229365,0.0019885,-0.006845,0.0010135,0.0027655,0.0012505,0.0051785,0 .000309,-0.000863,0.0163275,-0.0038915

Thank you. Much better for me also.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.9570% / 0.01957011
63.0 Visigoth
37.0 Proto-Celts