South Versus North calculator (Europe Bronze Age calculator)

**~~gixajo~~** · 01-19-2023, 08:04 AM

Scaled.

Code:

North_Europe:IRL_BA,0.1263435,0.129988,0.0607165,0.0644385,0.0296975,0.022172,0.0019975,0.006,0.002761,-0.0058315,-0.00138,0.0086925,-0.009737,-0.0165835,0.0229365,0.0146515,-0.003716,0.006968,0.0011315,0.0049395,0.006613,0.00643,0.00228,0.0110255,-0.0029335
North_Europe:DNK_BA,0.1160995,0.1370965,0.0633565,0.0524875,0.0296975,0.0301205,0.011163,-0.005192,-0.0072605,-0.003827,-0.002923,0.0089175,-0.004683,-0.0161015,0.0138435,0.0041765,0.00678,0.009565,0.0152095,0.0046275,0.017906,-0.0087795,0.000801,0.002651,-0.0113765
North_Europe:SWE_BA,0.119514,0.142174,0.073916,0.062016,0.031083,0.011156,0.012691,0.015692,0.011658,-0.003645,-0.001624,-0.006744,-0.007879,-0.009634,0.014794,0.024794,0.018775,-0.006334,-0.01081,-0.00075,-0.001497,0.002844,0.006532,-0.011568,0.000359
North_Europe:Baltic_EST_BA,0.1321485,0.1213556,0.0992205,0.111662,0.051671,0.040746,0.0158398,0.0204684,-0.0029042,-0.050607,0.0009094,-0.0182389,0.0359462,0.0400344,-0.0180239,0.0018297,0.0103654,-0.000684,-0.0013952,0.0046272,-0.0024957,-0.0062692,0.0106487,-0.017388,0.002359
North_Europe:UKR_MBA,0.127482,0.11577,0.047894,0.070737,0.010771,0.026216,0.00376,0.008077,-0.017385,-0.030069,-0.008282,0.005845,0.005798,-0.029038,0.013436,0.005834,-0.005215,-0.003801,-0.006034,0.002126,-0.010981,0.004081,0.000616,0.017713,-0.003952
South_Europe:ITA_Broion_BA,0.122929,0.1502983,0.037335,-0.0130277,0.0533433,-0.004741,-0.0026633,-0.0035383,0.022361,0.0461663,0.002652,0.0074937,-0.0189297,-0.015001,-0.004117,0.0082647,0.015733,-0.0006333,0.0017177,-0.0030013,-4.17e-05,0.0011127,-0.000452,-0.0056233,-0.000958
South_Europe:ALB_MBA,0.124067,0.144205,0.017725,0.000323,0.03416,-0.019801,0.00564,-0.012461,0.011658,0.034078,0.003248,0.004346,-0.005352,-0.022432,-0.008822,0.004243,0.026989,-0.007475,0.001885,0.006128,-0.000873,0.006059,0.007765,0.010724,0.008143
South_Europe:GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA,0.1217907,0.171286,-0.0082967,-0.0624467,0.0254407,-0.027703,0.00752,-0.0073843,0.005045,0.0431897,0.0076863,0.0129383,-0.0164023,0.0023857,-0.024656,-0.0086183,0.0103873,-0.0004223,0.0026813,-0.0036687,-0.0139753,0.0108403,-0.0071483,-0.000683,-0.0001997
South_Europe:Iberia_Central_BA,0.1239044,0.1505886,0.059639,0.0003691,0.0686281,-0.0074901,-0.0052371,-0.0001319,0.0395609,0.0550354,-0.0029926,0.01291,-0.0243167,-0.019621,0.0066116,0.0103233,0.0156089,-0.0004163,-0.0021549,0.0007146,0.0115154,-0.0001766,-0.0088561,-0.020261,0.0028397
South_Europe:HRV_BA,0.1249776,0.1484702,0.0283592,-0.0082042,0.0336678,-0.0094266,-4.7e-05,-6e-04,0.0074856,0.0265702,0.0002924,0.0073136,-0.0166796,-0.0043762,-0.0030672,-0.0050118,0.0034684,-0.0009124,0.0031678,-0.0048272,-0.0067134,0.0014344,0.0003204,0.0013978,-0.0044786
Africa:ZAF_2100BP,-0.639686,0.058901,0.025644,0.041344,-0.00277,-0.002789,0.267912,-0.20653,0.011658,0.016766,0.002761,-0.06744,-0.01888,0.005092,0.026058,-0.013392,0.031944,0.289737,-0.092137,0.003752,-0.035188,-0.000495,0.002835,-0.000843,-0.00934
Asia:CHN_Amur_River_6320BP,0.029594,-0.443786,0.067505,-0.054587,-0.040931,-0.049364,0.01034,-0.004615,-0.004909,0.013121,-0.048879,-0.009741,-0.001635,0.007982,-0.008686,-0.008353,0.010822,0.003167,0.029413,0.017383,0.005989,-0.024731,-0.014543,-0.001928,-0.011855
America:ARG_ArroyoSeco2_7700BP,0.0552042,-0.311006,0.1192645,0.0922972,-0.1111745,-0.0206378,-0.2850092,-0.3403125,-0.0103795,-0.0156725,0.004506,0.00015,0.0007802,0.020162,-0.0085502,0.0063312,0.0060628,-0.002692,0.0069132,0.0041582,-0.00287,0.00847,-0.0013862,-0.0043378,-0.0002095
Oceania:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_4000BP,-0.042115,-0.224432,-0.205154,0.215442,0.145566,-0.322398,-0.007285,0.014538,-0.000818,0.003098,-0.004872,-0.002248,0.004311,-0.001239,-0.008415,-0.000796,0.004694,-0.001774,-0.01169,-0.003377,0.003369,-0.006801,-0.000863,-0.001928,-0.00946

**Dušan** · 01-19-2023, 08:55 AM

Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.1689% / 0.01168906
49.6 South_Europe
48.6 North_Europe
1.8 Asia

Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.1689% / 0.01168906
38.2 North_Europe:Baltic_EST_BA
34.0 South_Europe:GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA
15.6 South_Europe:HRV_BA
10.4 North_Europe:UKR_MBA
1.8 Asia:CHN_Amur_River_6320BP

**Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas** · 01-19-2023, 09:04 AM

Code:

Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 3.4948% / 0.03494808
68.8	South_Europe:HRV_BA
24.2	South_Europe:Iberia_Central_BA
5.0	North_Europe:UKR_MBA
1.4	Africa:ZAF_2100BP
0.4	Asia:CHN_Amur_River_6320BP
0.2	Oceania:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_4000BP

Code:

Distance to:	Viriato_scaled
0.04181683	South_Europe:HRV_BA
0.05283929	South_Europe:ITA_Broion_BA
0.07024071	South_Europe:ALB_MBA
0.07149488	South_Europe:Iberia_Central_BA
0.09925803	North_Europe:DNK_BA
0.10214002	North_Europe:IRL_BA
0.10410976	South_Europe:GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA
0.10420655	North_Europe:SWE_BA
0.12732344	North_Europe:UKR_MBA
0.18849009	North_Europe:Baltic_EST_BA
0.60904224	Asia:CHN_Amur_River_6320BP
0.61477673	Oceania:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_4000BP
0.67387332	America:ARG_ArroyoSeco2_7700BP
0.88919180	Africa:ZAF_2100BP

**Pedro Ruben** · 01-19-2023, 09:52 AM

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 3.9874% / 0.03987422
85.0 South_Europe
11.0 North_Europe
3.4 Africa
0.6 America

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 4.0026% / 0.04002649
89.6 South_Europe
4.8 North_Europe
4.4 Africa
1.0 Asia
0.2 America

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 3.0611% / 0.03061148
80.6 South_Europe
16.0 North_Europe
2.6 Africa
0.8 Oceania

**Russki** · 01-19-2023, 10:28 AM

I think everyone here knows that Lithuanians/Latvians have the least Mediterranean admixture in Europe.

You use very Med-admixed samples from Western Europe, so in the end you get Lithuanians more South than Isles populations.

**Gallop** · 01-19-2023, 10:44 AM

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.8504% / 0.02850380
86.0 South_Europe
12.2 North_Europe
1.6 Africa
0.2 Asia

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.5344% / 0.02534375
83.2 South_Europe
14.4 North_Europe
2.4 Africa

Distance

Spoiler!

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.8504% / 0.02850380
44.8 South_Europe:HRV_BA
41.2 South_Europe:Iberia_Central_BA
6.8 North_Europe:UKR_MBA
3.2 North_Europe:IRL_BA
2.2 North_Europe:SWE_BA
1.6 Africa:ZAF_2100BP
0.2 Asia:CHN_Amur_River_6320BP

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.5344% / 0.02534375
48.0 South_Europe:HRV_BA
35.2 South_Europe:Iberia_Central_BA
13.6 North_Europe:SWE_BA
2.4 Africa:ZAF_2100BP
0.8 North_Europe:UKR_MBA

**Beowulf** · 01-19-2023, 10:44 AM

Target: Ivorix
Distance: 3.8254% / 0.03825416
85.2 South_Europe
13.0 North_Europe
1.8 Africa

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**Lemminkäinen** · 01-19-2023, 10:53 AM

Target: MauriJussi1m_scaled
Distance: 1.7492% / 0.01749159
43.8 North_Europe:IRL_BA
39.6 North_Europe:Baltic_EST_BA
8.0 North_Europe:UKR_MBA
4.6 Asia:CHN_Amur_River_6320BP
3.6 South_Europe:HRV_BA
0.4 South_Europe:Iberia_Central_BA

Distance to: MauriJussi1m_scaled
0.06095458 North_Europe:IRL_BA
0.06592244 North_Europe:UKR_MBA
0.07125698 North_Europe

NK_BA
0.07406219 North_Europe:SWE_BA
0.08537407 North_Europe:Baltic_EST_BA
0.13059845 South_Europe:HRV_BA
0.14123738 South_Europe:ALB_MBA
0.14474171 South_Europe:ITA_Broion_BA
0.14864193 South_Europe:Iberia_Central_BA
0.20520140 South_Europe:GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA
0.58188327 Asia:CHN_Amur_River_6320BP
0.60871076 Oceania:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_4000BP
0.63934755 America:ARG_ArroyoSeco2_7700BP
0.90527470 Africa:ZAF_2100BP

**~~gixajo~~** · 01-19-2023, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Russki

I think everyone here knows that Lithuanians/Latvians have the least Mediterranean admixture in Europe.

You use very Med-admixed samples from Western Europe, so in the end you get Lithuanians more South than Isles populations.

g]

I used Bronze Age references from the official datasheet.(and labeled as they come in the sources).

The genetic variety in the Bronze Age was less than it is today, so the results are quite logical, since the individuals of that time were closer to each other than today.

And as much as you idolize the Balts genetically, you will understand that today's Baltics are not Bronze Age individuals and you will also know that southern and northern Europeans have shared genetics.

So stop always complaining that "some admixture from southern Europe" appears on your results ( simulated coordinates, isn´t it) or to your beloved Baltics, me or my mother is constantly getting a mix from northern Europe and I'm not complaining about other´s calculators.

**Russki** · 01-19-2023, 11:18 AM