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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    Genetics don't explain phenotypical re emergences as much, for example the UP type has re emerged in Ireland thanks to sexual selection etc but the base genetics wouldn't show that, genetics explain the origins of a population(which to many extents match what Coon spoke about) but they don't explain phenotype occurrences. also as far as i am aware there are many different genes for skin colour so it is hard to really see what historic populations looked like.
    its becase Bell Beakers were Cm as well- and considering that red haired frequency in Dinaric types in Ireland- some would think that Bell Beakers brought red hair to Ireland. You just think Cm means biggest gorillas- but who is bigger: Loschbour, La Brana or that guy from Donetsk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immanenz View Post
    its becase Bell Beakers were Cm as well- and considering that red haired frequency in Dinaric types in Ireland- some would think that Bell Beakers brought red hair to Ireland. You just think Cm means biggest gorillas- but who is bigger: Loschbour, La Brana or that guy from Donetsk?

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    Both those men are basically robust caucasoids, La Brana looks more general Euro but that is because his features are more a blend of CM and atlantid, he basically is a modern European.

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    It is already explained that skin color is related with need of to produces Vitamin D and to protect against degradation of Folic Acid.

    If you have a dietary poor in Vitamin D, you will become lighter to produce it, but if you have another source of this nutrient, you can be black even in North Pole.

    This a question not related with race, phenotypes or metrics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram View Post
    It is already explained that skin color is related with need of to produces Vitamin D and to protect against degradation of Folic Acid.

    If you have a dietary poor in Vitamin D, you will become lighter to produce it, but if you have another source of this nutrient, you can be black even in North Pole.

    This a question not related with race, phenotypes or metrics.
    That doesn't explain why the British are lighter than people in parts of continental Europe with a similar climate like Britanny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    Alpines tend to a more ruddy yellow-white complexion though still light compared to Meds, Brunns and Borrebies can both be very very fair as are paleo atlantids. Climate isn't really a convincing answer, the alpines of Britanny are as dark as alpines who live in southern France and Turkey.
    The Alpine pigmentation is a variable one. Palaeolithic survivors of North West Europe, because of the adaptation to a more northerly climate. Exposure to sunlight plays a great role also. In France for example the Alpine race moved east to west. An Alpinid from Bretagne is as dark or as light as an Alpinid in southern France, because they are both Alpinids. Additionally, the time of separation between an Alpine in Bretagne and one in South France hasn’t been that long to make an evolutionary difference. Please do not compare Alpines of France ( Western Europe) and Alpines of Turkey ( Asia Minor). There is a difference. In Alpines of West Europe ( France, Germany, Austria, etc….) are as a whole lighter-pigmented than Asiatic Alpines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    That doesn't explain why the British are lighter than people in parts of continental Europe with a similar climate like Britanny
    The British people are indeed lighter than most continental Europeans (Scandinavians included). For your information, within France, it’s Brittany which has the highest frequency for pale skin ( phototype 1) as well as for freckly skin, red or reddish hair. As a whole, France has a higher frequency of skin type 1 than many northern European countries ( e.g. Sweden).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    Alpines tend to a more ruddy yellow-white complexion though still light compared to Meds, Brunns and Borrebies can both be very very fair as are paleo atlantids. Climate isn't really a convincing answer, the alpines of Britanny are as dark as alpines who live in southern France and Turkey.
    Both the Brunn and Borreby core populations are geographically located in more northerly latitude than that for the Alpine. Thus one shouldn’t be surprised the Alpine’s darker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    That doesn't explain why the British are lighter than people in parts of continental Europe with a similar climate like Britanny
    Place with similar climate in Europe as Brittainy? The are none other place in Europe with that insular nebulousness/cloudy as Brittainy.

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