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    Quote Originally Posted by PaganPoet View Post
    You always repeat the same data...
    France is west. So doesn't count. Ok! ��
    In the west? What is that supposed to mean? Belgium is overall lighter than France and Switzerland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaganPoet View Post
    I bet it is also because of the Huns.
    No, Neolithic populations in our country aren’t any different from the Ofnet people who lived in Germany at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    No, Neolithic populations in our country aren’t any different from the Ofnet people who lived in Germany at that time.
    There were Huns in Germany as well.
    In fact, I think it could come from areas in Germany that were influenced by Huns, wherefrom people migrated to here hundreds of years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    In the west? What is that supposed to mean? Belgium is overall lighter than France and Switzerland.
    West is not Northwest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaganPoet View Post
    There were Huns in Germany as well.
    In fact, I think it could come from areas in Germany that were influenced by Huns, wherefrom people migrated to here hundreds of years ago.
    There no such people as “Huns” in Neolithic times. Are you OK? Do you even know how far back are Neolithic days? Huns are a recent group living in Central Asia before invading Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaganPoet View Post
    You always repeat the same data...
    France is west. So doesn't count. Ok! ��
    Yes, I repeat it, because of consistency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    Yes, I repeat it, because of consistency.
    Consistent in outdated old data. Or mysterious source which makes it useless in this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaganPoet View Post
    Consistent in outdated old data. Or mysterious source which makes it useless in this forum.
    Not outdated. Due to the fact that it only includes ethnic Belgians ( Flemish and Walloon folk) not those of immigrant descent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    So i recently was in Belgium enjoying a very pleasant trip, not my first time in Belgium but my first time setting foot in Brussels, i expected Brussels to be a bit dissapointing though i did know that some areas are actually quite stunning having passed through the city on a bus previously, what i did like about Brussels though is that it still feels fairly European which is something that cannot be said for London(pre brexit included) wokery seems a bit less in your face than in the UK with most of the adverts in the city still having mainly north or central European looking people. Populationwise the city seems about 60% native around the centre which isn't bad compared to London which is about 40% actual British in the centre anyway or Lisbon which has a heck of a lot of immigrants in the centre, Brussels seems more comparable with Madrid i think in terms of whiteness though of course there are more blondes. Also shop, restaurant staff are often ethnic Belgians or North central Euro looking at least which is also very different compared to London.

    As for the population well very varied is what i can say, you see a good range of north and central Euro looks in Brussels, obviously subnordics are very common, there is also a sort of robust alpinised type that is very common, think maybe a taller person with quite alpine facial features like smaller eyes and a flattish face but with added robustness from a brunn or borreby element, this type is generally quite pale but very present in the city. Also smaller alpines are seemingly quite common though how many of them are native i am not sure but a good deal must be as they seemed more or less lighter complexioned. A med sort of look is also very present though with more lighter brown hair and eyes. Blonde hair is not as common as in London but is still very present and a lot of the locals looked very similar to British Londoners, indeed i think more people from Brussels could pass easily in London than people from Newcastle or Glasgow. Out of all the populations in Europe Belgium has more people who look very much like the southern English, think fairly pleasant facial features, softer and less rugged than the Scots or northern English,

    Ghent where i also visited has a lot of people who look more or less English, borrebies, atlantids, nordo borrebies, atlantids, also quite a few atlantid meds a bit like Kate Middleton. some who also look very Danish or Dutch with very blonde hair, brunns are also present to a decent extent though softer featured than British ones mostly. People are tall though the men look less robust than taller British men, women are about an inch taller than British women, men are also about an inch to 2 inches taller. While the Flemsih are blonder there are still a heck of a lot of brunettes though mostly with light brown hair, the Flemish are nearly as pale as the English but as Septentrion said the British are still a bit pinker skinned on average, still around 90% more or less pass in England which is impressive. Alpine element in Ghent is almost as common as in Brussels so that accounts for the brunetness. i would say for Ghent which is a very White city about 20% are definitely blonde, 50% light brown and the rest dark brown. So to conclude Belgium is an interesting country for it's range of phenotypes, you see most European looks and on the whole is pretty much a north European country though with a very strong central Euro element.
    Your observations are pretty on the dot and surprisingly fall in line even with some anthropological studies. Your Ghent observations on hair colour for example is on point as they say. A typically Flemish population falls within that colouring, while a typically Walloon population would be somewhat darker. Therefore ethnic Belgians as a whole fall within the Northern European race as do ethnic populations of the British Isles, Scandinavia and the Netherlands (North-West Europe). I am not saying that we are completely identical either, there are always differences between various peoples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    "Blonde hair is not as common as in London but is still very present and a lot of the locals looked very similar to British Londoners, indeed i think more people from Brussels could pass easily in London than people from Newcastle or Glasgow. Out of all the populations in Europe Belgium has more people who look very much like the southern English, think fairly pleasant facial features, softer and less rugged than the Scots or northern English," You think Belgians pass better in Southern England than other Brits do?
    Scots tend to be more blue-eyed, paler, more freckled, slightly taller than the southern English.

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