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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    Med-shifted? FYI, the Mediterranean race has no significant importance in the Belgian population no more than it does in the Dutch. Although there is a higher presence of Alpines in the Belgian population than in the Dutch one.
    Then how would you label those who seem darkish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaganPoet View Post
    Zeeuws Vlaanderen?
    Ja, in zekere zin wel.
    Although here the comparison was between Belgium and the Netherlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaganPoet View Post
    Then how would you label those who seem darkish?
    In North-Western Europe, the presence of darkish or even dark hair is not always attributed to the presence of Mediterranean Proper. Firstly just by the Belgian mean CI of 80.7 tells you a lot about the insignificant presence of Meds in our population. If one could say that Wallonia has a higher ratio of darker-haired people than Flanders for example. The Wallonia mean CI is 82, this is far from a Mediterranean standard. As well as the mean measurements for facial proportions , large head size do not conform to a Mediterranean standard. In our population, the darkish is largely to the Alpine racial element, as well as the CM. Due to the fact that the Alpine and CM ( mainly Borreby) have their highest frequency in Wallonia which is as a whole the darkest-haired and darkest-eyed region. Although the difference is not great but it’s consistent. As a matter of fact, within the northern Borreby race as a whole, dark brown hair colour occurs in 30% of cases (adults). I am not denying the presence of many Atlantids ( Nordomediterranids) individuals. However, the Mediterranean Proper doesn’t have a grasp in our population and cannot be used as a basis to differentiate the Belgian from the Dutch population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watersater79 View Post
    In terms of body-type, Poles are definitely more robust English/Benelux/North Germans, or at least more stocky. What do you mean, Oliver about English/Benelux being more physically robust than Northern Germans?
    Where are you from again? Poles are not more robust than NW Europeans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    "Blonde hair is not as common as in London but is still very present and a lot of the locals looked very similar to British Londoners, indeed i think more people from Brussels could pass easily in London than people from Newcastle or Glasgow. Out of all the populations in Europe Belgium has more people who look very much like the southern English, think fairly pleasant facial features, softer and less rugged than the Scots or northern English," You think Belgians pass better in Southern England than other Brits do?
    Yeah England has a higher ratio of Anglo-Saxons, Hallstatts, Tronders, Dalofaelids than Belgium. Thus one could expect more blonde or fair hair in the population than Belgium. There is also a presence of higher ratio of Bruenns which gives more gingers in their population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    Yeah England has a higher ratio of Anglo-Saxons, Hallstatts, Tronders, Dalofaelids than Belgium. Thus one could expect more blonde or fair hair in the population than Belgium. There is also a presence of higher ratio of Bruenns which gives more gingers in their population.
    Belgium has more faelids in Flanders, I saw several. What England actually has more of is Keltic Nordics, brunns, funnily enough meddish looking locals.

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    I don't think you can draw any conclusions from Brussels. Only 25% of the population is of Belgian origin and they're more concentrated in the outer suburbs.
    There are more European immigrants than Belgians in Brussels, specially in the city centre where all the tourists go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    Belgium has more faelids in Flanders, I saw several. What England actually has more of is Keltic Nordics, brunns, funnily enough meddish looking locals.
    You sure, you weren’t confusing Dalofaelids with Borrebies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    You sure, you weren’t confusing Dalofaelids with Borrebies?
    I doubt there is a clear distinction in practice. Only in theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monapps View Post
    I don't think you can draw any conclusions from Brussels. Only 25% of the population is of Belgian origin and they're more concentrated in the outer suburbs.
    There are more European immigrants than Belgians in Brussels, specially in the city centre where all the tourists go.
    I know, the migrants from Europe are easy to tell apart though, I was talking about people who appeared to be locals who are much lighter than even the Polish etcand phenotypes I have recognized from other areas of Belgium.

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