Hungary ranked most corrupt country in the EU

[Atlantic Reptilian]

The Hungarian government and FIDESZ is basically built on corruption. Brainwashing the elderly and simple people in their own country, posing as some alt-right savior abroad while they take the whole country country to themselves step by step behind the scenes. It has reached a point where I dont even give a fuck about political orientation in Hungarian politics because these guys basically steal your kids future and give it to theirs.

What's going on over there?

[Lemminkäinen]

Isn't money laundering worse?


Agreed. If we compare Sweden to say the UK, Sweden has a much more established system of personal details etc. so it's difficult to i.e. launder money, since they have to know who your are (social security number is used everywhere) and where you got the money etc.

In eastern European countries, this system isn't as developed because people were used to not having issues such as large financial frauds and so on (socialist/communist system). You couldn't "do crypto" and fraud people and get away with it. When fraud existed, it was on a much smaller scale.

Also, as for property ownership, nobody worried about it being registered somewhere, because it had been owned by this or that family for many generations. This isn't an issue of corruption, but rather an issue of not having fully changed to the modern way of handling these things.

It is like computer technology: in the beginning it will come with benefits, but you also have to have protection if it is used against you, which some countries haven't really put as much effort into. It could perhaps be because they are not fully onboard with this new way of doing things.

Then there are also examples (in former Yugoslavia) where there were rules that said that a teacher wasn't allowed to base a grade (in school) on the student's ethnicity. It was illegal, but some did it anyways. So, corruption also has a lot to do with the people who commit those acts.

In principle corruption is a linked to capitalism, because capitalism implements free competition. It is not question about is the competition really free, but we have to pretend it, because people have to believe it to keep wheels rolling. In countries where the property rights are weak, like in socialism and also in Russia, corruption is not a similarly relevant thing.

Edit

EU is all the time sloping towards weaker property rights, not in jure, but federation taxation gives oppotunity to give finacial support to national companies. France is supporting this idea. But USA also do it. In a big run this means more income redistributions.

[Atlantic Reptilian]

In principle corruption is a linked to capitalism, because capitalism implements free competition. It is not question about is the competition really free, but we have to pretend it, because people have to believe it to keep wheels rolling. In countries where the property rights are weak, like in socialism and also in Russia, corruption is not a similarly relevant thing.

Edit

EU is all the time sloping towards weaker property rights, not in jure, but federation taxation gives oppotunity to give finacial support to national companies. France is supporting this idea. But USA also do it. In a big run this means more income redistributions.

Well, I cannot speak for the Soviet Union, but I'm quite sure property rights were strong in former Yugoslavia, since people were allowed to own their homes, probably for the same reason why smaller firms weren't owned by the state. As for the corporations that were owned by the state, they were still managed and directed by the workers, in proportion to their professional role. This also made it less focused on administration and such because you didn't have to sell/buy companies. You could instead focus on your field. When these corporations earned profits, the sum was allocated first to Belgrade (which is what many people disliked) and from there put into social security, public institutions etc.
The Soviet union was also much larger than Yugoslavia, so obviously there would be more of these apartment blocks in the Soviet union. But I do not know that much to speak about them.

In former Yugoslavia, an example could look like this:
your parents work at a corporation, and that corporation owns some apartments that are meant to host their workers, if they have worked for say 10 years, after that company they will get the full ownership of that property. Parents paid for their kids' education too.