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The asylum system at present is broken. Eventually one major country will reject the Convention and Protocol relating to the Status of Refugees. It is just not sustainable the way it is now. There really needs to be regional centres in poor but stable countries set up which are funded by the target countries to assess these refugees. You can't just have people trekking across perfectly safe countries to get to the place they find most desirable. Long term there needs to be more effort put into reducing the drivers of asylum i.e. war and poor governance. Western countries will not be able to take all the people that want to go there. This is an issue which needs to be discussed by governments before things get a lot worse.
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The only thing that will save the West is shutting the borders and a push for AI. Because Western Euros love their welfare system and aren't willing to give it up, but yet are not producing children that would grow up to sustain this system with their productivity, they're forced to look for an outside source of labor that is truly a mixed bag in the present and will be a powder keg in the future.
Shutting the borders is, on the surface, cruel because many good people will suffer, but what does that matter if 50 years from now your nation collapses because you allowed people who are a social problem to come and create parallel societies where they see the native-born as scum (recall the thread about the Swedish teacher)? Now everyone is fucked because society can't sustain itself. Now everyone suffers.
AI needs to advance (even with the dangers that it poses) so that much of the labor that requires young, productive men can be passed off to machines if Euros want to have a semblance of a welfare state that so many people love so much cuz they're dumb and think something comes from nothing.
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The welfare state can only function if people contribute. No one minds helping those less fortunate and vulnerable people but there has to be some social cohesion for this to function. You can't have large amounts of people of a different culture and ethnicity coming in and living off welfare when they haven't contributed.
I think there will be a tipping point with this when people will say enough is enough. Europe seems to be having a lot of unrest at the moment so I don't know how long the EU can continue to force people to accept large amounts of refugees who they see as not contributing and not wanting to adapt to their new countries.
There is not these issues in Australia even though they take a decent amount of refugees but it is controlled which I think is the key thing. People aren't coming in on boats every week and also we don't have the huge numbers of Ukrainians which all European countries are having to take in.
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I understand some of the frustration about the migrant "refugee" problem, especially because Europe, unlike the New World, wasn't created for the purpose of being a multiracial melting pot. But here I must put this in a historical context: In the 1850s, there were places in America where "NINA" (No Irish Need Apply) signs were displayed in shop windows. There was some discrimination against Irish Potato Famine Refugees, and here we see Ireland exhibiting a similar sentiment.
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Yes people use that excuse all the time but Irish didn't get any handouts. They got no accommodation and help offered to them on arrival. They didn't work they didn't survive. A completely different scenario to what is happening today. Ireland only got independence from the UK in 1922 and had to build their country up to where it is today. What is happening in Ireland is no different to what is happening in other European countries. Irish went to places like Australia and the US when they were not easy places to live in. They had to rely on themselves to survive.
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Even if everyone contributes it's not sustainable unless with each generation you have a larger pool of young, productive workers. People now live longer and for the first time in history, we're witnessing the elderly being a major portion of the population. They expect to be supported. They expect their healthcare needs to be taken care of and since they're elderly they have many healthcare needs. Economic growth needs to continue or they're in big trouble.
Euros must either have more children, which is difficult in a society that is heavily taxed but even if it wasn't I doubt they'd have many children for various reasons I'm too tired to get into because it would have to be detailed, or bring in immigrants from culturally different parts of the world, which has its problems as has been discussed, or focus on developing AI further, which has some dangerous possibilities, which aren't just a Battleship Galactica type scenario but a society where a large number of people lose their sense of value and the psychological and social ramifications that will come from that.
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What Japan does now is allow foreigners to work in Japan and contribute to their system, but not benefit from the system. The understanding is these foreigners will go back home and because they mostly come from poor Asian countries, such as Vietnam, their savings is like a small fortune in their home country. So both sides gain. However, this way of dealing with immigration would never fly in the Western world. It would be seen as taking advantage of the worker.
Japanese also have a work ethic that Euros do not have and are willing to do low-skilled labor unlike many Westerners who will live on the dole instead of working a job they feel is demeaning but even then they're also beginning to open up to more immigration because they have little choice.
China has moved past the point of no return (the consequence of the one child policy coming to fruition). They will have a demographic collapse. It's going to be really bad. It'll be a warning for the rest of us.
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