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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthDutch7991 View Post
    I's choose the statistical median scorer, because the high scorer might not be indicative of my own teaching quality, same for exceptionally bad outliers. That would motivate me to be as good as possible so that the real reflective, average student is still good enough
    Not a bad point if you take the original post literally. But this is an analogy and the position of a student is 'fixed' in this case. And your job as an academic at that point is to choose the best one, the one who will represent your work. And once you do it, the other ones don't interest you. Look at my response to AR. Maybe this is too baffling, I get it.



    If I was more straightforward, I would just say - 'women can truly like just one guy at a time and they don't care about the rest, not much at least'. But if I did that, people would automatically disagree. So that's why I prefer to use analogies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthDutch7991 View Post
    Oh, but as for the analogy. I think people will find that in the real world it's a lot more complicated than that. Ultimately you need someone you can get along with day to day, and pretty looks will sour for you real fast if you can't stand the way they live at home.
    That's correct. I've reacted to your post before I saw this one. Anyhow, look isn't everything. In fact, it's barely an issue for me.

    But I stand by my original point. As I said in that example a few posts before, even though my brother and his girlfriend live a good life, she's betraying him in a way. Though he doesn't know. You probably don't remember MissMisschief, as you are a fairly new member. She has a boyfriend while fantasizing about other guys. Such a behavior is appaling to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldaris View Post
    Yes, of course I can elaborate. See, the 'academic' in my analogy is a woman who gets to choose a man, the 'student'. Then there is no difference if you're just a step behind the best or whether you're the last. What I didn't mention in the original post is that it's only theoretical. In practice, it works differently of course. Back to the analogy. See even if you are good at something, but you're not the very best, it ultimately makes you no better than anyone else. Sounds like a contradiction, but think about it.

    Maybe the example would be better. I've talked to my brother's girlfriend once and she told me about her celebrity crush. Won't lie, I was appaled by that, but I didn't tell him anything, since I knew it would cause a serious trouble. He is a man of honor and he would not tolerate that. And I didn't want to shatter his family.
    Oh, yeah, I think I see your point more now.

    About your brothers family, it seems like he has been lured into something that he might not be aware of. Sure, you don't want to spark chaos in his family, but he should know who his girlfriend really is. If they don't have any kids it might not be too late.
    Quote Originally Posted by SouthDutch7991 View Post
    Oh, but as for the analogy. I think people will find that in the real world it's a lot more complicated than that. Ultimately you need someone you can get along with day to day, and pretty looks will sour for you real fast if you can't stand the way they live at home.
    This is why I usually pick older people to be friends with and discuss. I feel like there is a sense of freedom when appearance is out of the way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aldaris View Post
    But I stand by my original point. As I said in that example a few posts before, even though my brother and his girlfriend live a good life, she's betraying him in a way. Though he doesn't know. You probably don't remember MissMisschief, as you are a fairly new member. She has a boyfriend while fantasizing about other guys. Such a behavior is appaling to me.
    That makes me so sad, because there are people deserve a trustworthy partner (because he himself is a trustworthy person) but, looking at how people behave, you know that he is going to be disappointed. Even outside of romantic relationships this happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldaris View Post
    Then there is no difference if you're just a step behind the best or whether you're the last. What I didn't mention in the original post is that it's only theoretical. In practice, it works differently of course. Back to the analogy. See even if you are good at something, but you're not the very best, it ultimately makes you no better than anyone else. Sounds like a contradiction, but think about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aldaris View Post
    If I was more straightforward, I would just say - 'women can truly like just one guy at a time and they don't care about the rest, not much at least'. But if I did that, people would automatically disagree. So that's why I prefer to use analogies.
    Well, this is exactly true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldaris View Post
    Imagine you have a bunch of students and you have to choose who is gonna represent your work.

    Then you make no difference between the second best of the bunch and the worst one. You can choose only one and the choice is obvious. And final.

    Doesn't matter if you are the second or the last.

    It is an analogy, but I hope it's clear. Poke holes in that as I'm bored.
    Well, three aspects:

    - it might be hard to determine the "best" in all aspects.
    - the chosen one must agree (to "represent your work").
    - and last but not least: What if you want a number of students to represent your work? F. i. many papers try to (and effectively do) impress by exhibiting many authors ("representatives").
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    Well, three aspects:

    - it might be hard to determine the "best" in all aspects.
    - the chosen one must agree (to "represent your work").
    - and last but not least: What if you want a number of students to represent your work? F. i. many papers try to (and effectively do) impress by exhibiting many authors ("representatives").
    Ad 1) I don't think so. For the most part it's quite objective. Not one hundred percent objective, but it's reliable enough.

    Ad 2) Yeah, that's correct.

    Ad 3) Perhaps you can, yes. But you always have the favorite one. That doesn't mean you think about the rest of them as garbage, but only one of them gets to have a talk. The rest would be sitting and watching and all the focus would be on him.

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