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    Quote Originally Posted by Jgab602 View Post
    Interesting that you lack Anatolian_BA, that is related to East Med, Are you using Horner Populations under SSA? If yes, then it probably means that a significant part of your MENA comes from East Africa. But the Iran Chl and the Italian N/Chl together with some Iberomaurusian can mean Jewish DNA. Although very weird to not see Anatolian Chl... but it could happen, I haven't tested with Horner-Admixed people (Obviously)
    Target: Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA25
    Distance: 5.1797% / 0.05179682
    51.4 SSA
    35.8 Anatolian_BA
    12.8 Iberomaurusian

    they prefer more Anatolian also

    Code:
    Distance: 1.5196% / 0.01519595
    43.8	SSA
    31.4	Hispania_Iberian
    11.8	Greco-Roman_Colonial
    10.0	Berber_&_Moor
    2.4	Amerindian
    0.6	Ethiopian_&_Eritrean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jgab602 View Post
    Interesting that you lack Anatolian_BA, that is related to East Med, Are you using Horner Populations under SSA? If yes, then it probably means that a significant part of your MENA comes from East Africa. But the Iran Chl and the Italian N/Chl together with some Iberomaurusian can mean Jewish DNA. Although very weird to not see Anatolian Chl... but it could happen, I haven't tested with Horner-Admixed people (Obviously)
    if i take Iran N off:

    Target: JingleBell_scaled
    Distance: 1.1268% / 0.01126768
    44.6 SSA
    17.2 Bell_Beaker
    13.2 Iberian_Chl/Globular_Amphora
    11.4 Anatolian_BA
    6.4 Corded_Ware
    3.2 Iberomaurusian
    2.4 Native_American
    1.6 Italian_N/Chl

    Code:
    Distance: 1.5196% / 0.01519595
    43.8	SSA
    31.4	Hispania_Iberian
    11.8	Greco-Roman_Colonial
    10.0	Berber_&_Moor
    2.4	Amerindian
    0.6	Ethiopian_&_Eritrean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle Bell View Post
    if i take Iran N off:

    Target: JingleBell_scaled
    Distance: 1.1268% / 0.01126768
    44.6 SSA
    17.2 Bell_Beaker
    13.2 Iberian_Chl/Globular_Amphora
    11.4 Anatolian_BA
    6.4 Corded_Ware
    3.2 Iberomaurusian
    2.4 Native_American
    1.6 Italian_N/Chl
    Oh interesting! but I tried with my usual SSA and Amerindian samples and got this:
    which looks perfect IMO

    Target: JingleBell_scaled
    Distance: 1.0078% / 0.01007819

    44.4 Western_African
    17.8 Iberian_Chl/Globular_Amphora
    11.6 Corded_Ware
    11.0 Anatolian_BA
    8.4 Bell_Beaker
    3.6 Iberomaurusian
    2.6 Amerindian
    0.6 Iranian_Chl

    I think there's a problem with your SSA samples, whould you like for me to give you a personalized selection just like I did to me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jgab602 View Post
    Oh interesting! but I tried with my usual SSA and Amerindian samples and got this:
    which looks perfect IMO

    Target: JingleBell_scaled
    Distance: 1.0078% / 0.01007819

    44.4 Western_African
    17.8 Iberian_Chl/Globular_Amphora
    11.6 Corded_Ware
    11.0 Anatolian_BA
    8.4 Bell_Beaker
    3.6 Iberomaurusian
    2.6 Amerindian
    0.6 Iranian_Chl

    I think there's a problem with your SSA samples, whould you like for me to give you a personalized selection just like I did to me?
    yes pls :0

    Code:
    Distance: 1.5196% / 0.01519595
    43.8	SSA
    31.4	Hispania_Iberian
    11.8	Greco-Roman_Colonial
    10.0	Berber_&_Moor
    2.4	Amerindian
    0.6	Ethiopian_&_Eritrean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle Bell View Post
    yes pls :0
    Target: JingleBell_scaled
    Distance: 0.8391% / 0.00839111

    49.0 SSA
    18.6 Iberian_Chl/Globular_Amphora
    9.8 Corded_Ware
    8.4 Bell_Beaker
    6.0 Anatolian_BA
    3.8 Iranian_Chl
    2.4 Amerindian
    1.4 Iberomaurusian
    0.6 Northwestern_Russia_BA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle Bell View Post
    study the composition of modern adn ancient groups
    we just put coordinates in Vahaduo as a source and after we chose what will be the population which we want know the origin (target) and just press run

    its a basic system but its suficient to have fun and some things, but the profissional its qpAdm
    How can i do it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DraviXi99 View Post
    How can i do it ?
    Just copy the populations which u want use as the source and paste in, and paste the population which u want to model in target
    but if u want ur results u must did a dna test

    Here the link with all samples in g25

    https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/...obal25_12.html

    and vahaduo
    https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/
    Last edited by Jingle Bell; 02-05-2023 at 06:34 PM.

    Code:
    Distance: 1.5196% / 0.01519595
    43.8	SSA
    31.4	Hispania_Iberian
    11.8	Greco-Roman_Colonial
    10.0	Berber_&_Moor
    2.4	Amerindian
    0.6	Ethiopian_&_Eritrean

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    Target: Mirek_scaled
    Distance: 1.8600% / 0.01859985
    49.8 Corded_Ware
    31.0 Bell_Beaker
    17.4 Italian_N/Chl
    1.2 Minoan
    0.4 Iberomaurusian
    0.2 Northwestern_Russia_BA


    Distance to: Mirek_scaled
    0.03864015 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_FRA:I1391
    0.04611278 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5525
    0.04733997 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5834
    0.04769305 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:E09569
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    0.04909026 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_England:I5379
    0.04956709 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_NLD:I5750
    0.05066117 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_England:I5382
    0.05089215 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I3529
    0.05097903 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I2365
    0.05154281 Corded_Ware:Corded_Ware_CHE:MX192
    0.05167440 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I3589
    0.05275284 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_FRA:I1390
    0.05284872 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_England:I2445
    0.05369871 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5521
    0.05371254 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I6590
    0.05375569 Corded_Ware:Corded_Ware_CHE:MX198
    0.05396848 Corded_Ware:Corded_Ware_CHE:MX188
    0.05421994 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5023
    0.05470184 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I4178
    0.05470466 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_POL:I6583
    0.05470685 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5833
    0.05526657 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5529
    0.05531585 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5523
    0.05536400 Bell_Beaker:Bell_Beaker_England:I3256
    Target: cakmir7y_scaled
    Distance: 0.0147% / 0.01473253 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    49.8 (Balto-)Slavic
    31.0 Celtic
    14.3 Germanic
    4.9 Balkan

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    Target: Pedro_scaled
    Distance: 1.0364% / 0.01036408
    26.4 Bell_Beaker
    23.4 Iberian_Chl/Globular_Amphora
    22.0 Corded_Ware
    9.0 Anatolian_BA
    8.2 Italian_N/Chl
    7.6 Iberomaurusian
    3.4 Minoan

    Target: Dad_scaled
    Distance: 1.0914% / 0.01091365
    36.0 Corded_Ware
    30.6 Iberian_Chl/Globular_Amphora
    15.0 Italian_N/Chl
    10.0 Iberomaurusian
    7.6 Anatolian_BA
    0.8 Ancestral_South_Indian

    Target: Mom_scaled
    Distance: 1.2715% / 0.01271487
    43.6 Bell_Beaker
    25.8 Italian_N/Chl
    14.4 Iberian_Chl/Globular_Amphora
    7.4 Corded_Ware
    7.0 Iberomaurusian
    1.8 Iranian_Chl
    Target: Pedro_scaled
    Distance: 0.6354% / 0.00635357
    54.2% Iberia
    21.6% Scotland
    12.4% North Africa (Tunisian Berber)
    8.6% Italia (Lazio)
    2.4% West Africa (Gambian)
    0.8% South America (Amerindian Caribe)

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    Target: Luso_scaled
    Distance: 1.2723% / 0.01272282
    40.4 Iberian_Chl/Globular_Amphora
    28.4 Corded_Ware
    11.8 Italian_N/Chl
    7.4 Iberomaurusian
    5.6 Bell_Beaker
    3.8 Anatolian_BA
    2.2 Iranian_Chl
    0.4 Minoan

    Target: Luso_dad_scaled
    Distance: 1.1615% / 0.01161518
    27.4 Corded_Ware
    24.6 Italian_N/Chl
    20.6 Iberian_Chl/Globular_Amphora
    20.0 Bell_Beaker
    5.8 Iberomaurusian
    1.6 Anatolian_BA

    Target: Luso_mom_scaled
    Distance: 0.9693% / 0.00969255
    50.4 Bell_Beaker
    19.2 Iberian_Chl/Globular_Amphora
    19.0 Minoan
    7.0 Iberomaurusian
    1.8 Corded_Ware
    1.6 Italian_N/Chl
    0.6 Anatolian_BA
    0.4 Northwestern_Russia_BA

    Target: LusoGF_Simulated
    Distance: 2.1399% / 0.02139915
    46.8 Corded_Ware
    18.6 Minoan
    16.2 Anatolian_BA
    16.0 Iranian_Chl
    2.4 Bell_Beaker

    [1] "distance%=1.7256"

    West_Iberia_IA,54.4
    Roman_Colonial,17.6
    Berber_EMA,10.8
    Germanic,10.6
    Scotland_EIA,6.6

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