Who is lighter, Iberians or Caucasus peoples?

[Damião de Góis]

Sure it does. The lightest skin types tend to be much more numerous in the gloomiest parts of the continent. Scandinavians, Balts tend to have a skin as a whole with higher tanning abilities than British Islanders. These palest skin types overlaps also to some extent in Belgium and France. For this reason, Belgium and France have much higher ratio of skin type 1 than Scandinavian countries like Sweden, although at the same time, the Belgians and the French tend to have higher ratios of skin type 4 than Scandinavians. This is also explained by the geographical location. Studies in France have shown the north-western regions to be as a whole lighter-skinned, more prone to freckling as well than eastern regions. A difference was also seen between the northern and southern regions of France, with the former lighter-skinned than the latter. Further south into Iberia, the difference might be more subtle, but is still there. This is as a whole not on individual basis. British Islanders which are the lightest, have also higher ratios of red hair genes than Scandinavian who are principally blondes.

Of course, because the sun in Scandinavia and Finland is strong and has tanning ablilities, which is why we see all these tanned scandinavians. Scandinavians would be considered dark skinned in Ireland or Belgium.

[Septentrion]

Please let’s stop the nonsense and not twist what is being said. The Scandinavians and Finns are predominantly fair-skinned, no questions about that. They are also the blondest-haired and bluest-eyed people in Europe and the world. There is nothing dark about that. It is only that the fairest skin types are most frequent in the British Isles particularly the Irish and Scottish. FYI, the fairest skin types among Europeans is strongly linked to red or reddish hair, freckled skin types.

[Septentrion]

Of course, because the sun in Scandinavia and Finland is strong and has tanning ablilities, which is why we see all these tanned scandinavians. Scandinavians would be considered dark skinned in Ireland or Belgium.

Take good note Conquistador, The climate that favours the development of pale skin the most is not the icy polar climate where the snow reflects sunlight during the summer. Instead, cloudy and cool temperate climate like that of the Faroe Islands, British Islands favours it the most.

[Septentrion]

Enough with Italians, Greeks and Slavs being pitted against Iberians (and vice versa)! Surely you'd equally find light and dark types in southern europe! I want to try a completely different region now - The Caucasus, both the north and the south. They're on the far ends of the Europe spectrum (if one wants to include the Caucasus in Europe, as it sometimes is!) and they're roughly on the same latitude with the people being...well... caucasians. So a fair game.



For the ignorants, Iberia comprises Spain and Portugal. The Caucasus includes Georgia, Armenia, Chechnya, Circassia, Ossetia, Dagestan, Adygea (some of which are part of Russia) and even areas of northern Azerbaijan and northwestern Iran.

Not a fair game at all. Caucasian people look less European than the Iberians.

[Damião de Góis]

Take good note Conquistador, The climate that favours the development of pale skin the most is not the icy polar climate where the snow reflects sunlight during the summer. Instead, cloudy and cool temperate climate like that of the Faroe Islands, British Islands favours it the most.

There's definitely more to it, otherwise Azoreans would be lighter skinned than mainland portuguese because they have been living in very cloudy islands for centuries. And natives from Colombia would be light skin, Bogota has less sun than Manchester:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogot%C3%A1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester

[Septentrion]

There's definitely more to it, otherwise Azoreans would be lighter skinned than mainland portuguese because they have been living in very cloudy islands for centuries. And natives from Colombia would be light skin, Bogota has less sun than Manchester:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogot%C3%A1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester

Slow down dude. A cloudy and cool temperate climate. Bogota is much closer to the equator than Manchester. Are you all there, sir? The UV radiation is also much higher than in England.

[Septentrion]

Of course, because the sun in Scandinavia and Finland is strong and has tanning ablilities, which is why we see all these tanned scandinavians. Scandinavians would be considered dark skinned in Ireland or Belgium.

Scandinavians have more melanin in their skin than their western neighbors, the British and Irish. This is the reason why they are able to tan more easily and have a natural sun-kissed glow even when they’re not wearing sunscreen. At the same time, they are predominantly a blonde-haired and blue-eyed people. The cause for this is linked to adaptation to climate, types of diet and sexual selection.

[Septentrion]

No it doesn't. Spaniards from the northern coast aren't lighter skinned than those further south. According to the map, it should be noticeable.
I'm also not convinced that swedes, finns or baltic populations are darker skinned than belgians, northern french or british islanders.

All these principally blonde-haired, blue-eyed populations of Europe tan easily :
Balts
Dutch
Northern Germans
Northern Russians

[Damião de Góis]

Slow down dude. A cloudy and cool temperate climate. Bogota is much closer to the equator than Manchester. Are you all there, sir? The UV radiation is also much higher than in England.

So it's Norway then, not the British Isles.

You are not going to convince me that Scandinavians or Finns are darker skinned than Belgians, Northern French or British Islanders.

[DraviXi99]

So it's Norway then, not the British Isles.

You are not going to convince me that Scandinavians or Finns are darker skinned than Belgians, Northern French or British Islanders.

Finns are also scandos,just not nordic.