What is your favorite country?

[capocannoniere]

You're right, Venetians are among tallest Italians for sure. Maybe the tallest even (just a guess).

But Italy is a strange place when it comes to people's height tbh, most research has a pretty big gap. In Veneto's case especially, extrapolating the concepts of phenotypes, the region is predominantly Dinaric, Atlanto-Mediterranean and Alpinid.

So you have at the same time those that probably are the shortest in europe mixing with the tallest.

[Varda]

For some reason I was never attracted to Montenegrin coast either. Kotor Bay has notoriously bad climate (altho fyord like setting is spectacular, but I'm not into mountains) and coast in general seems harsh, with deep sea, no islands (seeing open sea creeps me out, I dislike that abour Dubrovnik region too in general) neither that good beaches, it's very harsh in general.

I'm more interested in Albanian sand beaches and low lying coast (that's something different!) and ofcourse Greece.

Southern MNE is interesting tho, around Ulcinj, it has strong MENA like vibe and is very exotic plus giant sand beach. My parents said they felt Arab vibe there and that it's quite different from rest of Montenegrin coast that's Dalmatian like, but harsher.

Bay of Kotor receive high amount of rain from autumn to spring. For example Risan has about 3500 mm of precipitation per year on average (about 8X more than Athens, and almost 4.5X more than Rome) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Kotor#Climate
From May/June to September weather is stable, and rain is rare in that period.

There is 3 reasons why i did go to Albania and not in Montenegro last summer:
1. The Montenegrin coast is very expensive for years, even many westerners were shocked how expensive it is last few years
2. Many locals on Montenegrin coast including employed in tourism are rude and arrogant
3. I wanted to see something new

I did not repent for Albania, it was quite better than i expected. I looking for Greece, Turkey or again Albania for the next summer.

[Cristiano viejo]

There are some districts in lots of Balkan towns with non regulated, illegal construction which can be compared with Africa in lite mode, for sure, more like favelas.

This happens everywhere. Where do you think Gypsies in Spain live? in legal buildings?

Well some do: in buildings gifted by the authorities, entire neighborhoods which they converted in no go zones and true shitholes, full of trash, dirty and violent

[Atlantic Reptilian]

Anglo-Saxon sphere despite its flaws

The thing is, everything is generic, both old and new, so I will eventually even see the boring stuff in old buildings too.

[RogueState]

For some reason I was never attracted to Montenegrin coast either. Kotor Bay has notoriously bad climate (altho fyord like setting is spectacular, but I'm not into mountains) and coast in general seems harsh, with deep sea, no islands (seeing open sea creeps me out, I dislike that abour Dubrovnik region too in general) neither that good beaches, it's very harsh in general.

I'm more interested in Albanian sand beaches and low lying coast (that's something different!) and ofcourse Greece.

Southern MNE is interesting tho, around Ulcinj, it has strong MENA like vibe and is very exotic plus giant sand beach. My parents said they felt Arab vibe there and that it's quite different from rest of Montenegrin coast that's Dalmatian like, but harsher.

Ulcinj is full of Albanians (residents or tourists) and then Sandzaklije, and if you hear Serbo-Croatian there, they are for sure from our region. I think it's exaggerated to say there is a MENA or Arab vibe, but given the ethnic composition, you'll :
- hear five times a day the "ezan" (adhan- the call to prayer in Arabic) from mosques (there is one just next to Small beach (Mala plaza))
- see many cevabdzinice (qebaptore) and grilled meat outside (rostilj) with the charcoal smoke (cumur) that can give a more "southern" feeling/flavour when walking outside to compared other sea resorts with more "internal" restaurants
- hear the Tallava loud music from every shops/cafés/restaurants/ with excessive darbuka, zurna (zurla), tapani, def, ... beats that give also a more "exotic" rythm than other sea resorts with more "mainstrean European" sounds. E.g. this kind of "background" music :

Spoiler!

So I can somehow understand people from Croatia finding it more "exotic"

[Victor]

Ulcinj is full of Albanians (residents or tourists) and then Sandzaklije, and if you hear Serbo-Croatian there, they are for sure from our region. I think it's exaggerated to say there is a MENA or Arab vibe, but given the ethnic composition, you'll :
- hear five times a day the "ezan" (adhan- the call to prayer in Arabic) from mosques (there is one just next to Small beach (Mala plaza))
- see many cevabdzinice (qebaptore) and grilled meat outside (rostilj) with the charcoal smoke (cumur) that can give a more "southern" feeling/flavour when walking outside to compared other sea resorts with more "internal" restaurants
- hear the Tallava loud music from every shops/cafés/restaurants/ with excessive darbuka, zurna (zurla), tapani, def, ... beats that give also a more "exotic" rythm than other sea resorts with more "mainstrean European" sounds. E.g. this kind of "background" music :

Spoiler!

You can hear azan in Bar, no need to go east to Ulcinj

[RogueState]

You can hear azan in Bar, no need to go east to Ulcinj

Bar is the second city on the Montenegro shore with largest Sandzak Muslims community

[Vid Flumina]

Are Venetians hobbits? I always thought we were some of the tallest in Italy lol

Thats not saying much though Last time I visited there I was still growing but I recently saw pictures of my uncle (who is around my height) with relatives and he dwarfed everyone in photos- unlike with piedmontese side of the family. Maybe it's the specific area 5-10km from Friuli and Vicenza/Verona is a bit different story

[capocannoniere]

Thats not saying much though Last time I visited there I was still growing but I recently saw pictures of my uncle (who is around my height) with relatives & ext. families and he dwarfed everyone in photos- unlike with piedmontese side of the family. Maybe it's the specific area 5-10km from Friuli and Vicenza/Verona is a bit different story

The closest to the Alps the shorter they are probably, just like the Swiss.

South Brazilian "Colonos" like me are not much of a parameter because it's a big mix of Venetians, Lombards, Tyrolese and Friulans, but my father's side is pretty tall, my father is 180cm and there's an uncle that is like 190cm. My maternal uncle is very short though, probably under 170cm. I ended up at 178, bang average.

[Atlantic Reptilian]

- hear five times a day the "ezan" (adhan- the call to prayer in Arabic) from mosques (there is one just next to Small beach (Mala plaza))

From the area where my ancestry is from, I have been told that after the war of the 1990s religious buildings and their sounds, be it from churches or mosques, started to become more frequent and louder (the political situation getting more polarized). Have you noticed the same? I'm from a very secular family, so these things come off as annoyances and are looked at as backwards (despite religion).