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    Default Jews can pray in a Mosque but not in a Church

    That is interesting, because Americans usually group Christians and Jews as one thing they call them Judeo_Christians and Judeo_Christian values as oppossed to Islamic values or Islam.


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    The way you put it almost implies that it is Christians who forbid Jews to pray on a Church, when in reality it Jewish principles that forbid Jews to do so. I can't speak for all Christian denominations but regarding the one I am mostly familiar with, Catholicism, people of all faiths and backgrounds are more than welcome to attend the liturgy, no questions asked. Step into a Mosque while wearing a Kippah or a Synagogue with an Hijab and find out how welcoming and brotherly they are. Our cultural matrix is Judeo-Christian because Christians do not dismiss the scriptures in the Old Testament but it is not the same as lumping Jews and Christians together, since either have different interpretations of the scriptures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    The way you put it almost implies that it is Christians who forbid Jews to pray on a Church, when in reality it Jewish principles that forbid Jews to do so. I can't speak for all Christian denominations but regarding the one I am mostly familiar with, Catholicism, people of all faiths and backgrounds are more than welcome to attend the liturgy, no questions asked. Step into a Mosque while wearing a Kippah or a Synagogue with an Hijab and find out how welcoming and brotherly they are. Our cultural matrix is Judeo-Christian because Christians do not dismiss the scriptures in the Old Testament but it is not the same as lumping Jews and Christians together, since either have different interpretations of the scriptures.
    Listen man you misunderstand completely. Im not saying Christians forbid jews, im saying jews hate christians, or consider them idolators. It is actually something which i see as negative about jews, or at least neutral, and i wonder why people think that jews are allies of christians?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    Our cultural matrix is Judeo-Christian because Christians do not dismiss the scriptures in the Old Testament but it is not the same as lumping Jews and Christians together, since either have different interpretations of the scriptures.
    It is the practically the same, because it implies that christians have to fight for israel and that israel fights for the western civilisation as oppossed to a islamic civilisation. it is in the war of cultures for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Listen man you misunderstand completely. Im not saying Christians forbid jews, im saying jews hate christians, or consider them idolators. It is actually something which i see as negative about jews, or at least neutral, and i wonder why people think that jews are allies of christians?
    All Abrahamic denominations think theirs is the true one, so I don't understand what the amazement is. What you find negative in their religion, they also find in yours. I don't think that Christians see Jews as allies of Christianity. I think you are mixing geopolitics with religion because of the American and Israeli partnership. Israel follows a Western-inspired model but so does Japan. They are aligned with the West but it does not mean that Christianity and Judaism are converging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    It is the practically the same, because it implies that christians have to fight for israel and that israel fights for the western civilisation as oppossed to a islamic civilisation. it is in the war of cultures for example.
    It is nonsense.
    No sane Orthodox Christian would fight for Israel.

    It is American Protestant fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    It is nonsense.
    No sane Orthodox Christian would fight for Israel.

    It is American Protestant fallacy.
    True, but also common in the west in general not in Serbia though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    All Abrahamic denominations think theirs is the true one, so I don't understand what the amazement is. What you find negative in their religion, they also find in yours. .
    We could ask further if SOME jews organise in institutions or ngos or usurp insisting institutions to take down the vatican, or christianity in general but would that be anti-semitic, while majority of christians in the west do believe jews to be their allies. especially americans.
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