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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    True, but also common in the west in general not in Serbia though.
    Yeah, they are all crazy with all that "Judeo"-Christian civilization.

    It means nothing to us.
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    Talmudic Jews worship false "God" since they don't accept Holy Trinity and didn't accept and crucified Jesus Christ. The "Messiah" they're still waiting for is gonna be antichrist. The Judeo-Christian civilisation is nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    Talmudic Jews worship false God since they don't accept Holy Trinity and didn't accept and crucified Jesus Christ. The Judeo-Christian civilisation is nonsense.
    Not that I really have an opinion on the issue, but I cannot remember, historically, when Christians (of Europe) and Jews were allies until the US started developing this relationship (perhaps because of WW2)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    We could ask further if SOME jews organise in institutions or ngos or usurp insisting institutions to take down the vatican, or christianity in general but would that be anti-semitic, while majority of christians in the west do believe jews to be their allies. especially americans.
    Which Jewish organization is trying to take down the Vatican? Enough Tik-Toks for today. Most Jews view the U.S. and Europe either neutrally or positively, not negatively. I'm not understanding your analogy.
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    Here Israeli Jews say they would enter the mosque than in church.




    "Judeo-Christian civilisation"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Here Israeli Jews say they would enter the mosque than in church.




    "Judeo-Christian civilisation"
    Yea, unlike church, nothing happens in mosque except prayers, it's just a building where God is absent, that's why Muslims may normally exist even without mosques, but gathering at homes without any kind of clergy. Mosque is more a place of gathering for them. There's nothing like Christian sacraments in Islam which can be provided only by valid priests.

    Mosque is probably considered to be a safe place in spiritual meaning for Talmudic Jews

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    Mosque is probably considered to be a safe place in spiritual meaning for Talmudic Jews
    Where is it claimed that these Jews are Talmudic? Are you thinking generally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantic Reptilian View Post
    Where is it claimed that these Jews are Talmudic? Are you thinking generally?
    All post Christ and post Old Testament Judaists are Talmudic ones, maybe except some sects, but it doesn't matter.

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    In Abrahamic religions (regardless if they are Jewish, Christian or Muslim), God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient, therefore saying that he can be absent from a building is odd. Just as it is odd to dismiss the idea of Judeo-Christian traditions influencing Europe for the last two millennia, when half of the Christian Bible is actually the Jewish Tanakh (albeit in a different order).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    In Abrahamic religions (regardless if they are Jewish, Christian or Muslim), God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient, therefore saying that he can be absent from a building is odd. Just as it is odd to dismiss the idea of Judeo-Christian traditions influencing Europe for the last two millennia, when half of the Christian Bible is actually the Jewish Tanakh (albeit in a different order).
    First of all, Islam is not an Abrahamic religion as Muslims do not accept any kind of agreement between God and people. Allah is not omnipresent, it's described as distanced being, it's limited in space. That's another reason to say he has traits of creature, not a Creator.

    During the sacrament of Communion Holy Body and Blood of Christ are really present, that's it.

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