Jews can pray in a Mosque but not in a Church

[Atlantic Reptilian]

First of all, Islam is not an Abrahamic religion as Muslims do not accept any kind of agreement between God and people.

Can you elaborate on this?

Allah is not omnipresent, it's described as distanced being, it's limited in space. That's another reason to say he has traits of creature, not a Creator.

Where is this claimed?

[Victor]

Can you elaborate on this?

Where is this claimed?

Different Islamic sects have different statements, which differ only by "extremity". For example, wahabis claim that Allah is sitting on his trone.

[Dušan]

In Abrahamic religions (regardless if they are Jewish, Christian or Muslim), God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient, therefore saying that he can be absent from a building is odd. Just as it is odd to dismiss the idea of Judeo-Christian traditions influencing Europe for the last two millennia, when half of the Christian Bible is actually the Jewish Tanakh (albeit in a different order).

You Westerners can call yourself Judeo-Christians if you want, we dont care.

That term is not acceptable for Orthodox Christians.

[Atlantic Reptilian]

Different Islamic sects have different statements, which differ only by "extremity". For example, wahabis claim that Allah is sitting on his trone.

Ok.
But the Qur'an doesn't say this? Then it's more according to the believers to interpret?

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

First of all, Islam is not an Abrahamic religion as Muslims do not accept any kind of agreement between God and people. Allah is not omnipresent, it's described as distanced being, it's limited in space. That's another reason to say he has traits of creature, not a Creator.

During the sacrament of Communion Holy Body and Blood of Christ are really present, that's it.

Islam is not an Abrahamic religion only according to you apparently. All of them have the same roots. Islam recognizes the prophet Abraham (and Moses and Jesus for the matter). Saying that God is not omnipresent is an oxymoron. How can God be omnipotent but not omnipresent, that would mean its power is limited and therefore not God.

[Victor]

Ok.
But the Qur'an doesn't say this? Then it's more according to the believers to interpret?

That's not a problem of Christians that Muslims don't have some universal teaching and every verse may be interpreted freely totally opposite.

[Victor]

Islam is not an Abrahamic religion only according to you apparently. All of them have the same roots. Islam recognizes the prophet Abraham (and Moses and Jesus for the matter). Saying that God is not omnipresent is an oxymoron. How can God be omnipotent but not omnipresent, that would mean its power is limited and therefore not God.

Sure, that is why islamic Allah is not God and Islam is a false religion. Why do you tell me it's oxymoron, tell it to the salafites, for example. But even majority of Muslim scholars will say that being "presented everywhere" is not literal, but with his mind, like it cannot be so that Allah is presented in some dirty place or under my hat.

Islamic Jesus is a mockery of Jesus Christ and Holy Trinity, when a God, Saviour is relegated to a human prophet.

We can also say that mormones have same roots with Christianity with such logics, while it's half-pagan sect.

[Loki]

That is interesting, because Americans usually group Christians and Jews as one thing they call them Judeo_Christians and Judeo_Christian values as oppossed to Islamic values or Islam.


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There's no such thing as "Judeo-Christian". That's an American concept that compromises the Christian faith.

[Loki]

Jews wouldn't pray in a church, because it would convict them of their fatal sin of rejecting Jesus Christ.

[Atlantic Reptilian]

Islam is not an Abrahamic religion only according to you apparently. All of them have the same roots. Islam recognizes the prophet Abraham (and Moses and Jesus for the matter). Saying that God is not omnipresent is an oxymoron. How can God be omnipotent but not omnipresent, that would mean its power is limited and therefore not God.

When reading the Qur'an, in majority of verses I have read, at the end there is always something about how Allah is aware of everything that you do, i.e. if you think bad thoughts Allah will know and so on.

That's not a problem of Christians that Muslims don't have some universal teaching and every verse may be interpreted freely totally opposite.

That's is not what I'm claiming. I'm trying to understand how you reached your conclusion.

Sure, that is why islamic Allah is not God and Islam is a false religion. Why do you tell me it's oxymoron, tell it to the salafites, for example. But even majority of Muslim scholars will say that being "presented everywhere" is not literal, but with his mind, like it cannot be so that Allah is presented in some dirty place or under my hat.

Islamic Jesus is a mockery of Jesus Christ and Holy Trinity, when a God, Saviour is relegated to a human prophet.

I suppose there is not much bad to say about Jesus as a person, the only thing I am skeptical of (and would be whether we were talking about Jesus or the USSR) is the way he is idolized, since he came in a human shape, which cannot be perfect. As for the soul of Jesus, it can indeed be more "perfect" but not in a human form, only in the heavens. The human conditions sort of make everyone susceptible to corruption, whether it is the person itself (not in Jesus case) or the way a person is worshiped/idolized etc.