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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    Is it less perverted to erect everywhere (street art, home art, etc.) how an individual was tortured and sadistically executed?
    Imagine images of sex being everywhere ? That’s worse than today. At least people are ashamed to admit they watch porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autismus Maximus View Post
    Europe would be less civilized for sure, but there is a reason behind the acceptance of Christianity by Europeans: the nature and values of Europeans coincided with Christianity. They adopted it because they felt represented by it. Europeans were not all hedonistic savages prior to the rise of Christianity. They have always been hardworking, good-natured people with values. Seeing how Christianity expressed its inner self, a substantial portion of Europe studied it and adopted it.
    It seems to me like there was lots of barbarism, pervertedness, human sacrifices, and etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    Is it less perverted to erect everywhere (street art, home art, etc.) how an individual was tortured and sadistically executed?
    People, whether they call themselves Christian or or something else, will always find excuses to resort to their lusts (if they find that acceptable and worthy). Just like people who are against this will always speak up, despite being prosecuted and killed.

    But then again, what is the point of not living your life according to your own innate purpose?
    Quote Originally Posted by Autismus Maximus View Post
    Europe would be less civilized for sure, but there is a reason behind the acceptance of Christianity by Europeans: the nature and values of Europeans coincided with Christianity. They adopted it because they felt represented by it. Europeans were not all hedonistic savages prior to the rise of Christianity. They have always been hardworking, good-natured people with values. Seeing how Christianity expressed its inner self, a substantial portion of Europe studied it and adopted it.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    Actually European countries dominated and colonized whole known World due to Christianity.
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    Exactly. Arrogantly genociding other native people and cultures in their homelands. Nice thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breathe View Post
    Imagine images of sex being everywhere ? That’s worse than today. At least people are ashamed to admit they watch porn.
    Not me. But I got attacked by a lot of hypocrites (like you seem to appreciate) when I said I find porn cool.

    As we know in (pagan) Greek and Roman culture were a lot of naked individuals shown, among them women as well, ofc.

    This was essentially before that Oriental "Islamic..." correction: "Abrahamitic state" intruded into Europe and spread it's "burka-minded" Christian prudery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    Actually European countries dominated and colonized whole known World due to Christianity.

    Russians were just a bunch of Slavic tribes before Christianity, lots of them quite primitive "living next to the wood" tree worshipers. It gave us universal conciousness and leveled up every of the tribe which joined the nation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Breathe View Post
    That’s what I was thinking too. It would be full of barbarianism, sexual indecency, drunkness, human sacrifices and etc.

    I heard Ancient Rome/Greece was so perverted that they had erected penis art everywhere. Street art, home art, etc.
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    Whole history of humankind is harsh, but at least everything you've listed was NOT normal for whole societies like it would be in lots of pagan societes.

    For example, no matter what Conquistadors have been themselves, they did nothing wrong in South America by demolishing the devil worshiping, human sacrificing, cannibalistic states of American Indian tribes.
    Child and war prisoner sacriface (like buring them in cages) was most disgusting trait of Paganism. Halloween evolved out of child sacriface traditions of Celts for eg.
    Showing Paganism as romantic is dangerous and incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    Not me. But I got attacked by a lot of hypocrites (like you seem to appreciate) when I said I find porn cool.

    As we know in (pagan) Greek and Roman culture were a lot of naked individuals shown, among them women as well, ofc.

    This was essentially before that Oriental "Islamic..." correction: "Abrahamitic state" intruded into Europe and spread it's "burka-minded" Christian prudery.

    Why do you find porn cool ? You should be ashamed of yourself because porn portrays women as sex object. Moreover, there is a lot of abuse and trafficking in the industry. Disgusting.

    May I ask what is wrong with a little self control and modesty when it comes to sex ? The pagans used to have sex with anything with a pulse… family members, little boys, animals. Just look at their artwork to understand how filthy their sexuality was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    Exactly. Arrogantly genociding other native people and cultures in their homelands. Nice thing.
    Germans have a rich history of Christianity, like St.Michael I think is the German Patron Saint Germans are even called "Der Deutsche Michel" "The German Mike" because of Saint Michael. The Germans christianised many people in the East, like the Balts, the Eastern Slavs etc.... And they went on Crusades in Europe but also in the Holy Land. Germans were the Holy Roman Empire of German Nation closely allied with the Pope and Rome. I wonder why you prefer the pre-Christian Germanic tribes who were not unified into a german nation rather then the Christian identity of Germans? I noticed some self-proclaimed right wingers do so they like Vikings etc.
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    Similar to American continent before the arrival of Conquistadors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Germans have a rich history of Christianity, like St.Michael I think is the German Patron Saint Germans are even called "Der Deutsche Michel" "The German Mike" because of Saint Michael. The Germans christianised many people in the East, like the Balts, the Eastern Slavs etc.... And they went on Crusades in Europe but also in the Holy Land. Germans were the Holy Roman Empire of German Nation closely allied with the Pope and Rome. I wonder why you prefer the pre-Christian Germanic tribes who were not unified into a german nation rather then the Christian identity of Germans? I noticed some self-proclaimed right wingers do so they like Vikings etc.
    We see fast degeneration of Germany with Christianity eroding there. Sad.

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