Discovery of Hindu god Shivas home like Phallus pillars at 11.4kya world first village

[tipirneni]

In other words, you inferred the culture (one that was never proved to be this old) of the site based on the haplogroup of one sample. Good job, man.

Hindus keep record of Megalithic monuments like Temples and sumerian/anatolian like astrology to track moon and suns to divine positions as those ancients did and use it to predict auspicious times. that is still practised today and the temples looking like megalithic stone monuments still exists. so Thats the continuity which I was talking about which other groups stopped for more simpler alternatives. That was what I was trying to convey

[dviz]

Hindus keep record of Megalithic monuments like Temples and sumerian/anatolian like astrology to track moon and suns to divine positions as those ancients did and use it to predict auspicious times. that is still practised today and the temples looking like megalithic stone monuments still exists. so Thats the continuity which I was talking about which other groups stopped for more simpler alternatives. That was what I was trying to convey

What are you talking about? The Anatolians and Sumerians were Indian? Why not Egyptians as well? Dude ...

[tipirneni]

What are you talking about? The Anatolians and Sumerians were Indian? Why not Egyptians as well? Dude ...

They are not Indians. There are Indians among them. we have archealogical and genetic evidence. Egyptians had many episodes of conquests so the kings were mostly changing. But we know in Egypt the priests had H haplogroup which is indian, maybe they were connected to these Indians in Anatolia and Mesopotamia

[dviz]

They are not Indians. There are Indians among them. we have archealogical and genetic evidence. Egyptians had many episodes of conquests so the kings were mostly changing. But we know in Egypt the priests had H haplogroup which is indian[...]

just as there are Gypsies in every European country. What's the relevance of that?

Alright, I'm gonna stop here.

[chinshen]

They are not Indians. There are Indians among them. we have archealogical and genetic evidence. Egyptians had many episodes of conquests so the kings were mostly changing. But we know in Egypt the priests had H haplogroup which is indian, maybe they were connected to these Indians in Anatolia and Mesopotamia

There was no Indian presence in either Anatolia or Mesopotamia in ancients times.

[tipirneni]

There was no Indian presence in either Anatolia or Mesopotamia in ancients times.

who said so. there are some Indian trading colonies found in excavation in Mesopotamia and some of the samples found there have Indian mtdna. Even today many Arabs living in some of those places still carry those ancient mtdna

[chinshen]

who said so. there are some Indian trading colonies found in excavation in Mesopotamia and some of the samples found there have Indian mtdna. Even today many Arabs living in some of those places still carry those ancient mtdna

Yes, there were probably some Indian trading colonies in the most southern tip of Mesopotamia and Persian Gulf, but that is more than a thousand miles away from Northern Mesopotamia and Anatolia.

Many of today's Arabs in the Persian Gulf Arab countries and probably even Southern/Central Iraq and southern Iran have real Indian background, but that is a relatively recent phenomena that occurred after Islam took over. Many Muslim Indian populations went on pilgrimage then settled in Islamic holy cities in Iraq/Iran. but that has nothing to do with Ancient Mesopotamia, Anatolia or its original people.

[tipirneni]

Yes, there were probably some Indian trading colonies in the most southern tip of Mesopotamia and Persian Gulf, but that is more than a thousand miles away from Northern Mesopotamia and Anatolia.

Many of today's Arabs in the Persian Gulf Arab countries and probably even Southern/Central Iraq and southern Iran have real Indian background, but that is a relatively recent phenomena that occurred after Islam took over. Many Muslim Indian populations went on pilgrimage then settled in Islamic holy cities in Iraq/Iran. but that has nothing to do with Ancient Mesopotamia, Anatolia or its original people.

Thats what you didn't research enough. There are complete towns and villages of Arabs with Indian ydna and mtdna. There are some in Armenia. The Anatolia would be tough since we had complete population turnover many times which would have destroyed any such small towns.

[chinshen]

Thats what you didn't research enough. There are complete towns and villages of Arabs with Indian ydna and mtdna. There are some in Armenia. The Anatolia would be tough since we had complete population turnover many times which would have destroyed any such small towns.

I don't understand what and where do you want me to research, never heard of such a thing.
Can you elaborate further, when and where in Armenia or for that matter if anywhere in West Asia did you have Indians?

[tipirneni]

I don't understand what and where do you want me to research, never heard of such a thing.
Can you elaborate further, when and where in Armenia or for that matter if anywhere in West Asia did you have Indians?

There are many small provinces with population structure separate from the main Arab line in Middle east

1. freshly unearthed remains (teeth) of 4 individuals deeply deposited in slightly alkaline soil of the Tell Ashara (ancient Terqa) and Tell Masaikh (ancient Kar-Assurnasirpal) Syrian archaeological sites, both in the middle Euphrates valley. Dated to the period between 2.5 Kyrs BC and 0.5 Kyrs AD the studied individuals carried mtDNA haplotypes corresponding to the M4b1, M49 and/or M61 haplogroups, which are believed to have arisen in the area of the Indian subcontinent during the Upper Paleolithic and are absent in people living today in Syria
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0073682
mtDNA from the Early Bronze Age to the Roman Period Suggests a Genetic Link between the Indian Subcontinent and Mesopotamian Cradle of Civilization


2. Tamil merchants in Mesopotamia
This study has suggested that the skeletal remains from Mesopotamia belonged to people who have genetic affinity with the populations living in the Indian subcontinent. This observation has raised a pertinent question as whether M65a, M49 and/or M61 haplogroups carrying individuals were descendants of ancient migrants who might have founded regional Mesopotamian groups like that of Terqa
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0109331

3. Saudi study a small Indian influence (3%) was also detected
https://link.springer.com/article/10...1471-2148-7-32
The M contributions to the Saudi Arab gene pool represented gene flow from East and North Africa (4%) and India (3%) but not from Central Asia. Also shared U9 and J1b gene pool with Indians.

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