Russia vs Australia - Where would you rather live?

[Grace O'Malley]

I would push back a bit on this, I think Australia forsook it's traditional identity decades ago and embraced (from the top down) 'multiculturalism' instead, which ultimately means having no identity/culture. If you asked most Australians what it means to be Australian they probably would struggle to answer, maybe some rubbish about mateship or barbies. However this is probably the same for most Western countries now, even in Europe. In many ways it's this lack of strong national identity and the tolerance of other cultures that attracts foreigners, but is that good for the people here? Not in my opinion.

Yes they are trying to be inclusive but I've known many people from different ethnic groups that have embraced the lifestyle here and even if they aren't of European background are no different than white Australians. What's it like living in any other western nation? There is a lot of similarity of lifestyle. If you are Irish or British coming to live in Australia it is not going to give you much culture shock. There are many Australians now whether they be of Italian ancestry, Filipino, Indian, Dutch that feel Australian and live much the same as everyone else. This is very noticeable with people from mixed backgrounds. People that are a bit separate are the usual ones i.e. people of Muslim background because they don't appear to want to integrate as their religion separates them from the rest. I do know Muslim people that I work with and I get on fine with them. One woman I know has a long association with Australia in that her great grandfather was here but the family went back and forth to Pakistan. She thinks people coming here should be told they have to adapt to Australian laws and have more respect for this country. She would be quite strict on who she would let in here.

I mean what is the British identity? The same could be said for any modern country. I personally think Australia does a pretty good job of settling migrants.

[SkyBurn]

I'm sorry, and I want to be respectful, but what sort of question is this? Not to sound overly patriotic but let's be honest here?

Better weather, more press freedom, better healthcare, not currently waging a domestic war, one of the highest HDI indexes/press freedoms/income per capita in the world, low corruption.

Is the next thread going to be: which country would you rather live in? Belarus or Canada?

[gixajo]

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Some here are so ideologically motivated that if the question were: "Which do you prefer, to be in Australia having a beer in front of a beach, or in Russia and having your eyes gouged out with a spoon?" some would say without hesitation: "In Russia, in RuSsia!!!"

“Father, forgive these people! They don't know what they're doing.”

Luke 23:34-35

But also quoting the bible:

He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

John 8:7

[oszkar07]

Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
Standard of living is not everything. Money means nothing if the schools are full of LMBTQP propaganda, there is no strong identity because everyone is mixed, there is no strong cultural background but only diversity like in Australia. Btw Russia has averge central european standard of living in general which is not bad globally and such russian cities like Moscow or Petrograd has average western living standards just saying. If youre diligent, you can make good career in Russia too.

Many parents in Australia are not really happy with the LGBT BS in schools.
This is something imposed by whatever Policy agreement in education but Im hoping its just a passing fad. Im not sure even all teachers are in favour of imposing it on children.

I blame the millenial generation in the west to some extent, its was not a thing at all in my generation. To be clear I dont encourage or believe in bullying of gays etc, Im not specific anti gay rights ...But I dont think gender issues or information about Trans and homosexuals is something that should be pushed onto children at school. I dont understand how this ever became a priority policy in the scheme of things.

That said I think that there is a percieved level of exxageration about this.I have children at school in Australia, so far there is not a significant push of the LGBT stuff from what I have seen.

There is a Australian identity in a broad sense but its not necesarily the steretype you see in a movie like crocodile Dundee.

Its completly normal Europe will have more defined national identities because nations/ethnic groups have been around for much longer in Europe than the Australian nation which started its colonisation in 1788 and was only officially founded as Australia in 1901.

Australia is part of the new modern world, because I like history and the old world charm I am somone who often looked outside of Australia. However these days I probably would not be too motivated to move anywhere else.

The so called globo homo LGBT BS is not something in reality I see as being significant enough at present to make me consider moving out of Australia.

What sucks in Australia now and many parts of the world ...due to post BS Covid plandemic and this BS war ... we have overblown inflation, ridiculous interest rates,expensive petrol, car prices for new and used cars Up,certain cities have very overpriced housing ...those are the things about Australia or anywhere else I find annoying.

This idea that East Europe is better because no globo homo or LGBT to me sounds like BS propaganda to be honest. I doubt those things in day to day reality would mean much to anyone because prioritys for any sane people are being able to have opportunities of good job , nice living condition and healthcare, safe lifestyle,etc.
Truth is there are gays and trans people and degenerate people everywhere. East Europe in no better than anywhere for that. East Europe still has a old school dont ask dont tell mentality but has no less homo, trans than anywhere else.


Do I think that PC stuff has gone too far in the West ...yes I do. But their is kickback about this now. Im hoping rational thinking will balance out some of this ridiculous mentality and one can see the kickback already amongst many folks in the west.
So hopefully elites that push BS ideas will lose their impact, the problem is some these dumbed down millenials. Otherwise I cant say things are so bad that I would literally pack my bags and wanna move to Vladivostok.

[Vojnik]

I'm sorry, and I want to be respectful, but what sort of question is this? Not to sound overly patriotic but let's be honest here?

Better weather, more press freedom, better healthcare, not currently waging a domestic war, one of the highest HDI indexes/press freedoms/income per capita in the world, low corruption.

Is the next thread going to be: which country would you rather live in? Belarus or Canada?

Belarus.

[catgeorge]

Australia is not a very good place for children and bringing up a young family. Australia is hell.
I can work anywhere in the world - but the wife won't leave her family and fair enough too despite living in torment in this shit hole - even expensive schools have porn in their libraries.
These idiots don't get it - once a child loses its innocence - they lose it forever.

[Vojnik]

Many parents in Australia are not really happy with the LGBT BS in schools.
This is something imposed by whatever Policy agreement in education but Im hoping its just a passing fad. Im not sure even all teachers are in favour of imposing it on children.
I blame the millenial generation in the west to some extent, its was not a thing at all in my generation. To be clear I dont encourage or believe in bullying of gays etc, Im not specific anti gay rights ...But I dont think gender issues or information about Trans and homosexuals is something that should be pushed onto children at school. I dont understand how this ever became a priority policy in the scheme of things.

That said I think that there is a percieved level of exxageration about this.I have children at school in Australia, so far there is not a significant push of the LGBT stuff from what I have seen.

There is a Australian identity in a broad sense but its not necesarily the steretype you see in a movie like crocodile Dundee.

Its completly normal Europe will have more defined national identities because nations/ethnic groups have been around for much longer in Europe than the Australian nation which started its colonisation in 1788 and was only officially founded as Australia in 1901.
Australia is part of the new modern world, because I like history and the old world charm I am somone who often looked outside of Australia. However these days I probably would not be too motivated to move anywhere else.
The so called globo homo LGBT BS is not something in reality I see as being significant enough to make me consider moving out of Australia.
What sucks in Australia now and many parts of the world ...due to post BS Covid plandemic and this BS war ... we have overblown inflation, ridiculous interest rates,expensive petrol, car prices for new and used cars Up,certain cities have very overpriced housing ...those are the things about Australia or anywhere else I find annoying.

This idea that East Europe is better because no globo homo or LGBT to me sounds like BS propaganda to be honest. I doubt those things in day to day reality would mean much to anyone because prioritys for any sane people are being able to have oppurtunities of good job , nice living condition and healthcare, safe lifestyle,etc.


Truth is there are gays and trans people and degenerate people everywhere. East Europe in no better than anywhere for that.

Is it right to say that the Australian identity is based upon military conflicts Australia was involved in? For example Gallipoli and Kokoda track? As in are they the unifying factors?

[SkyBurn]

Belarus.

You could probably go there, they have a huge emigration problem (I wonder why) and they would love additional skilled labour. And your savings would go a lot further to set yourself up there (if Australia is truly so horrible)

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

The land down under.

[Creoda]

Yes they are trying to be inclusive but I've known many people from different ethnic groups that have embraced the lifestyle here and even if they aren't of European background are no different than white Australians. What's it like living in any other western nation? There is a lot of similarity of lifestyle.

That's my point: Australia is increasingly culturally indiscernable, and less of a united 'people' every year, just one big multiracial supermarket like the US.