Nuking Ukraine ( tactical ) is only way out of this conflict

**Foghorn** · 03-10-2023, 04:09 PM

Not a troll thread.
I have been thinking what would be the most efficient way to bring an end to this conflict in Ukraine.
Current tempo dictates that Russia will keep partially mobilizing and rotating its forces, with heavy attrition warfare of individual cities.
At the same time west will keep aiding Ukraine until it really starts to hurt ( West is big enough of a power house for this to take ages ) and minor gains and losses on battlefield will guarantee at least several years of fighting.

What if Putin decides to use tactical nukes and throw them at relatively large grouping of Ukrainian forces ? West won't retaliate because it is not NATO territory, Ukraine will realize that this is no game, and negotiating table will pop up immediately. Sure there will be consequences imposed on terrain, people and environment, but they will happen regardless.

Do you think that there is other option ( realistically speaking ) than nuke to bring all sides to the table ?

Do let me know!

**Rumata** · 03-10-2023, 04:10 PM

*not reading*

you must be insane

**Atlantic Reptilian** · 03-10-2023, 04:19 PM

Well, if you have some knowledge of Putin that others don't have, maybe you should tell it. Nuking is not realistic.

**Jehan** · 03-10-2023, 04:24 PM

I read articles about this possibility.
There isn't an enought large grouping of ukrainian troops to make it worth.

West will retaliate not with nuke but they will probably destroy russian army.

**Lemminkäinen** · 03-10-2023, 04:30 PM

Using nukes would lead to a global series of political actions I don't want even imagine. Said this, I hope that Russia and Ukraine start negotiations asap, but I have undersyood that Russia wants the whole Dombas before it and we have a dilemma, because Ukraine obviously don't trust that this is enough. We need a middleman. If China could do it, it would be great, but before it China and USA have to make a deal of it

**Annihilus** · 03-10-2023, 04:34 PM

A few tactical nukes won't win them the war but will help accelerate them losing it.

On a side note, Why does Russia think if they take Ukraine they will be somehow safer?

**~~curveball~~** · 03-10-2023, 04:46 PM

We could start with your house.

**Varda** · 03-10-2023, 04:51 PM

Nonsense. There is no need to Russia nuke Ukraine for victory over ukro-nazi-khazar regime. Except that, Russia by dropping of nuclear missiles on ukro-nazis would make impossible life in Ukraine for own population and part of Russia as well for the next thousands of years.

**robertb** · 03-10-2023, 05:59 PM

I'm afraid things may get out of hand, some country may feel threatened and nuke Russian forces.

Russia is holding back for some reason, maybe to save places and factories for later use. Lets face it if Russia went total war on Ukraine it would be wiped out. Like Afghanistan, if the US went total war there the entire country would be destroyed but other countries would probably sanction the US.

**Foghorn** · 03-10-2023, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen

Using nukes would lead to a global series of political actions I don't want even imagine. Said this, I hope that Russia and Ukraine start negotiations asap, but I have undersyood that Russia wants the whole Dombas before it and we have a dilemma, because Ukraine obviously don't trust that this is enough. We need a middleman. If China could do it, it would be great, but before it China and USA have to make a deal of it

There will be no negotiation as none of these terms are negotiable to either side.
Ukraine won't be signing off on Donbass, Russia will not be able to return Donbass after so much Russian blood has been spilled in order to seize it, It would make this war useless and Putin along with his entourage would hang from top off the Kremlin.

This is unsolvable gridlock as both sides stated several times they are not willing to negotiate unless side X recognizes point Y. This war and brutality of it leaves nothing for settlement.

A few tactical nukes won't win them the war but will help accelerate them losing it.

Precisely how would Nuke accelerate Russian loss in Ukraine ?

Nonsense. There is no need to Russia nuke Ukraine for victory over ukro-nazi-khazar regime. Except that, Russia by dropping of nuclear missiles on ukro-nazis would make impossible life in Ukraine for own population and part of Russia as well for the next thousands of years.

Because life in Ukraine as it is for now is very good and infrastructure is in very good shape that Nukes would change that dramatically.

Both sides underestimate the fact that everyone is involved in this conflict and everyone is holding back.