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    Quote Originally Posted by dviz View Post
    If 3.4% were only the self-identified then you would see the South Asian component seep into the majority population. In reality, the SA component is around 1% among Romanians, close to error margins. So no, the gypsy population is not much bigger, at most 4%, including all mixed gypsies.

    I am asking again, what is the source for this nonsense?
    In this thread Ion Basescul and Seya claim Gypsies are 2 million or 10% in Romania.
    In Borat's gypsy village (where the movie was shot) half of the people look gypsy but according to official statistics it's a 100% ethnic Romanian village because the people living there declared themselves as "ethnic Romanian".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    In this thread Ion Basescul and Seya claim Gypsies are 2 million or 10% in Romania.
    Have you actually read that thread?

    All his premises were proved to be nonsensical, and Ion Basescu himself later admitted that in another thread about Bucharest/Romania.

    Ion Basescu, like most Moldovans, deflect the Russian/Soviet stereotype (created deliberately by Russian propaganda) that Moldovans are (at least part-) gypsies on Romanians. It's a cheap trick.

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    Btw Hungarian_Master is partly right, many gypsy start to assimilate into the society, their birth rate is lower now than it was 15-20 years ago. If this trend continues, then they will not overgrow europeans for sure, so we must treat my map with criticism, its just the worse scenario, but it can happens.
    But now in 2023, basically gypsies have still higher birth rate, so their number will grow for a while in the society, maybe this will stop, and many gypsy will migrate to West, so their number will slowly reduce. This is an optimist scenario, but its wrong to underestimate the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    But now in 2023, basically gypsies have still higher birth rate, so their number will grow for a while in the society, maybe this will stop, and many gypsy will migrate to West, so their number will slowly reduce. This is an optimist scenario, but its wrong to underestimate the problem.
    It's wrong to start with fake premises, full stop. There never was such an estimation, as the one you posted in the OP.

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    Eastern Europe will become what it already is..... a shithole
    Many gypsies still tend to migrate to Germany or UK from those countries and yes, those numbers are really exaggerated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dviz View Post
    Have you actually read that thread?

    All his premises were proved to be nonsensical, and Ion Basescu himself later admitted that in another thread about Bucharest/Romania.

    Ion Basescu, like most Moldovans, deflect the Russian/Soviet stereotype (created deliberately by Russian propaganda) that Moldovans are (at least part-) gypsies on Romanians. It's a cheap trick.
    I edited my post, see what I wrote about Borat's village.

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    Sorry but that's science fiction.
    There won't be that many gypsies, they don't have enough growth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    Low IQ people breeding more than high IQ people is a global phenomenon, it's not something specific to Gypsies. You will find the same phenomenon in other places that don't have Gypsies. In the past having sex meant having children, that ain't the case nowadays as higher IQ people use birth control and do family planning, lower IQ people don't.
    Keeping the gypsies poor and low educated will surely get you this result (high birth rates).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dviz View Post
    If 3.4% were only the self-identified then you would see the South Asian component seep into the majority population. In reality, the SA component is around 1% among Romanians, close to error margins. So no, the gypsy population is not much bigger, at most 4%, including all mixed gypsies.

    I am asking again, what is the source for this nonsense?
    Mixing between European and Gypsies happened but mixed people were mostly assimilated into the Gypsy community in the past. So a gypsy with Romanian/Hungarian admixture is more common than the other way around. That is why Gypsies are so diverse, I've seen gypsyies that look straight out of India, others look clearly mixed and lighter / more euro. Sandu Ciorba is a famous Gypsy singer from Romania and he looks way more ethnic Romanian than Gypsy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curveball View Post
    Eastern Europe will become what it already is..... a shithole
    Many gypsies still tend to migrate to Germany or UK from those countries and yes, those numbers are really exaggerated.
    Switzerland steals from all of us Europeans through tax evasion much more than all gypsies put together, so shut the fuck up entitled gypsy.

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