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    Default Which Spanish ethic group Is racially the lighest?

    As the tittle says, Spaniards the have 0% Roman, Gypsy, Sephardic Jewish generic influence or phenotype.

    I know many northerns can easily pass In the British Isles while many Individuals from the South such as extremadurans and Murcians could easily pass as light northern africans.

    So genetically which are more shifted to the Anglos? Maybe Catalans and Basques follow by Castilians.


    I think it's a Important because If a Castilian Is 50% Northern European shifted, that's means a average Mexican Is 25% and that's a lot tbh..

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    Maybe Viking Mallorca and Gixajo know more about this subject since you are genetic tech savvy.

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    Basques?

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    Almost all Iberians are the same genetically but the more north shifted one's i think are Catalans and Basques, there are others users who can answer better than me this.

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    Roman 0%? For sure no, at least 10% Roman, the Olade study put that in ~20% but they used Greek samples
    Genetically I think Aragon or Catanula, they show some high Central Europe admix and few North African bit they have a high East-Med like (Roman-Greco)
    What u mean with 50% Northern Euro shifted? XD
    The West of Iberia have a high NA but also a high N. Euro like dna (Suebi?), and if a Castilian were for example 50% N. Euro (They arent) a Mexican would be more like 20% N. Euro bcs the Moriscos and Serfadic

    But Iberia overall its the same, East have less NA and West have a bit more but still have a huge Overlap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikiingMallorcaSpain View Post
    Almost all Iberians are the same genetically but the more north shifted one's i think are Catalans and Basques, there are others users who can answer better than me this.
    Iberians are more North shifted than basques, actually Basques are the less N. Shifted bcs they got less Yamnaya blood (25% in Basques vs 28 - 32% in East Ib vs 29% in West Ib)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle Bell View Post
    Iberians are more North shifted than basques, actually Basques are the less N. Shifted bcs they got less Yamnaya blood (25% in Basques vs 28% in East Ib vs 30% in West Ib)
    makes sense now i was looking at this PCA https://vahaduo.github.io/g25views/#Europe1 and i saw Catalans that seems the more North shifted among Aragonese and Balearics and Valencians too, basically East Iberians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle Bell View Post
    Iberians are more North shifted than basques, actually Basques are the less N. Shifted bcs they got less Yamnaya blood (25% in Basques vs 28% in East Ib vs 30% in West Ib)
    Aren't Basques and Galicians the most Celtics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laredo View Post
    Aren't Basques and Galicians the most Celtics?
    Nope, prob the most Celts are Castillians or Aragoneses or somewhere in Central/N Iberia, West have too NA, East have too much Germanic and Greco-Roman
    The celts of Galicia and Portugal had a lot of Pre-Celt ancestry, and also the modern Galicians have a lot of Morisco/NA ancestry
    Basques are 100% Iron Age iberians, but they of pred Non-IE and Non-Celtic origin, maybs they got some but its few
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laredo View Post
    Aren't Basques and Galicians the most Celtics?
    Basques are of Pre Indo European origin and have the less Steppe admixture in Iberia, and Galicia have the Highest NA admixture in Iberia but also High Northern euro like admixture, still they aren't the most North shifted one's.

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