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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle Bell View Post
    Interesting, but the Iberians in Roman Era actually become more East Med like, sugesting a substancial Roman, Greek and Punic/Phoenician input (as Olade says), the Iberia start just become more Northern at 6rd - 8th CE, NE Iberia shows a huge plot towards North with some samlles clustering with N. Germans and Dutch (Visigoth)
    I thought that visigoths were from south germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DraviXi99 View Post
    How does this thing of models work ? I want to learn too.
    Would be better print and show u but im not actually in Pc rn so
    U just need copy a sample, go to vahaduo and pasye in "target", after that choose any sample(s) and paste in "Source" , ur target sample will be modeled as a mix of the source giving u a possible results, the bad thing its that g25 dont actually validate or no their results unlike qpAdm that why u should do a model in qpAdm and if that model be validated by a good P-value and low Error u should use the same model in g25 and test at individual level bcs g25 its very easy to use unlike qpAdm
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    Quote Originally Posted by DraviXi99 View Post
    I thought that visigoths were from south germany.
    They are from southern scandinavia (actual Sweden if im not wrong), and Suebis are from N. Germany and Denmark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle Bell View Post
    Would be better print and show u but im not actually in Pc rn so
    U just need copy a sample, go to vahaduo and pasye in "target", after that choose any sample(s) and paste in "Source" , ur target sample will be modeled as a mix of the source giving u a possible results, the bad thing its that g25 dont actually validate or no their results unlike qpAdm that why u should do a model in qpAdm and if that model be validated by a good P-value and low Error u should use the same model in g25 and test at individual level bcs g25 its very easy to use unlike qpAdm
    Can you do one for me using suebi and visigothic samples ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle Bell View Post
    They are from southern scandinavia (actual Sweden if im not wrong), and Suebis are from N. Germany and Denmark
    About the suebi part,i knew about that already,nos visigoths i din't now,how what about ostrogoths ? I read somewhere that they were from poland,is that correct ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DraviXi99 View Post
    About the suebi part,i knew about that already,nos visigoths i din't now,how what about ostrogoths ? I read somewhere that they were from poland,is that correct ?
    Ostrogoth are just a part of proto-goths (Scandinavia and Eastern Europe) which migrated East and adopted Slavic and Balkanic culture/blood, while Visigoths were more Latinized
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    Quote Originally Posted by DraviXi99 View Post
    Can you do one for me using suebi and visigothic samples ?
    What, a model for iberians? For sure
    If u want a model yourself like in my signature u need a DNA raw data and get IllustrativeDNA package, its 25 bucks, sadly a very salty price, and u also need a Raw Data (Genera its 200 R$ rn)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle Bell View Post
    Ostrogoth are just a part of proto-goths (scandos) which migrated East and adopted Slavic and Balkanic culture/blood
    Cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle Bell View Post
    What, a model for iberians? For sure
    If u want a model yourself like in my signature u need a DNA raw data and get IllustrativeDNA package, its 25 bucks, sadly a very salty price, and u also need a Raw Data (Genera its 200 R$ rn)
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle Bell View Post
    Interesting, but the Iberians in Roman Era actually become more East Med like, sugesting a substancial Roman, Greek and Punic/Phoenician input (as Olade says), the Iberia start just become more Northern at 6rd - 8th CE, NE Iberia shows a huge plot towards North with some samlles clustering with N. Germans and Dutch (Visigoth)
    Try my model from Early Middle Ages (Just for Latin American and Iberian people):

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    Sub_Saharan_African:Kongo,-0.628304,0.064994,0.020365,0.017442,-0.000615,0.016176,-0.016451,0.020076,-0.033746,0.020228,0.008607,-0.003147,-0.001933,0.001514,-0.006786,0.00769,-0.009648,0.00114,0.001257,0.003502,-0.002496,-0.000989,0.001109,-0.001084,-0.006826
    Sub_Saharan_African:Gambian,-0.609409,0.0658062,0.0187808,0.011628,0.001354,0.0068606,-0.0358156,0.0374754,-0.0328466,0.0246748,0.0047744,-0.0045258,0.0146876,-0.000936,0.0117806,-0.0170244,0.0099094,-0.0007854,-0.001433,-0.0030764,-0.0031446,-0.0009152,0.0048806,0.0002168,0.0025146
    Berber_MA:Berber_MAR_TIZ,-0.068397364,0.13608082,-0.002537,-0.081924545,0.031586273,-0.038106636,-0.033115091,0.010866636,0.083910364,0.034591727,0. 009271,-0.0092644545,0.025475091,-0.021456727,0.021061273,-0.017200364,0.0015290909,-0.031257273,-0.057981091,0.013586091,-0.022256273,-0.054531,0.032963,-0.0050060909,0.0083388182
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    Southern_Levantine:IA_Abel_&_Megiddo,0.0859365,0.1497905,-0.057888,-0.0960925,-0.01431,-0.0383475,-0.0036425,-0.005654,0.012067,0.006834,0.011692,-0.00532,0.0190285,0.0049545,0.000068,0.0063645,-0.0114085,0.0070315,0.003142,-0.0045025,0.003494,0.0034005,-0.0044985,-0.0001805,-0.005029
    Iberian_EMA:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES:I3777,0.125205,0.144205,0.050534,0.018088,0.041546,0.001116,0.004935,0.004615,0.02168,0.023873,-0.008282,0.012439,-0.006095,-0.009909,0.016015,0.002917,0.004955,0.005321,0.005028,-0.00025,0.000374,-0.01286,-0.00037,0.001446,0.000718
    Iberian_EMA:Spanish_Pais_Vasco,0.128241,0.1516523,0.0563163,0.008075,0.052112,0.0024173,0.000235,0.002923,0.0277467,0.039849,-0.0059003,0.0093417,-0.02106,-0.012065,0.0184127,-0.002475,-0.0123433,0.0028713,0.0022207,-0.0065867,0.0077363,-0.002432,-0.006532,-0.006748,0.003672
    Iberian_EMA:TZA_Zanzibar_Euro_outlier:I0588,0.106994,0.152329,0.049026,-0.00323,0.047393,-0.008088,-0.00329,0.009461,0.008999,0.037176,-0.010555,0.007943,-0.016501,-0.018854,0.011536,0.000663,0.000391,0.002787,-0.006913,- 0.003001,-0.010981,-0.002597,0.005176,-0.006025,0.00491
    Visigoth:Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL,0.12662825,0.136081,0.04714025,0.0250325,0.034237,0.009064,0.0059925,0.0054805,0.00480625,0.00574025,-0.007145,0.004121,-0.010852,-0.00536725,0.00339275,0.00440875,0.0075295,0.00481425,0.00078575,0.00740975,0.006551,0.00102025,-0.002126,0.00659725,-0.003323

    Use an East african and Amerindian of which you are a descendant (Or proxy).
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