MAGYARS ARE LINGUISTICALLY FINNO-UGRICS BUT ARE RACIALLY EUROPEAN AND WHITE

[Wunder-Zeichen]

It comes from Asia

The Hungarian language is totally different to the dialects spoken by its neighbours, which usually speak Indo-European languages. In fact, Hungarian comes from the Uralic region of Asia and belongs to the Finno-Ugric language group, meaning its closest relatives are actually Finnish and Estonian.

https://archive.is/SYDgF#selection-423.0-429.298

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...r-banned/page8

Go East!: A History of Hungarian Turanism
The nature of the hungarian vs turkic linguistic ...
Proto Finno-Ugric Sources of the Hungarian Phonetic Stock
The Finno-Ugric Republics and the Russian State
Finno-Ugric, Siberian [mythology]
Friends and Relatives: Finnish-Hungarian Cultural Relations
Finno-Ugric peoples. Languages, Migration, Customs
East Central Europe in the Middle Ages, 1000-1500
The Hungarian-Americans
The Human Record: To 1700
The Other Europe in the Middle Ages: Avars, Bulgars, ...
Turkic Peoples: Mongols, Turkic Languages, Khazars, Bulgars, Uzbeks, Kyrgyz People, Bashkirs, Kazakhs, Azerbaijani People, Dinara Safina, Turkish Peop

Genetic Affinities Among Populations

Sub-Saharan Africans, North Africans, and Europeans form three distinct clusters.
And the Jews form a fairly compact cluster between the North Africans and Europeans.



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https://defenceforumindia.com/thread...6#post-2112829
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/searc...6u1_LUrfQv4NA/
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The western Finno-Ugrians include Hungarians, Finns, Estonians and Samis. The situation of the Samis in the Nordic countries (Norway, Sweden and Finland) is a relevant comparison point for the Kola Samis, Mansis, Hantis and Nenets in the far north. On conducting your analysis, some factors or points to consider are or include: The proto-Indo-Europeans, Kochhar (2000) confirms, are allotted the contiguous territory to the south of the Finno-Ugric, that is, the resource-poor steppes bordering the Caspian and Black Seas. It is noteworthy that this territory has not been associated with any other language group. The Finno-Ugric homeland, on the other hand, is confidently placed in the resource-rich northern forest zone of Europe extending from the Baltic Sea to the eastern side of the Ural Mountains. The Hungarians (or Magyars as they called themselves) entered Europe as invaders during the late ninth and early tenth centuries. The Human Record notes that the Hungarians, a Finno-Ugric pastoral people out of the Great Steppes of Eurasia, were terrifying as they swept into the eastern portions of the disintegrating Carolingian Empire. Sedlar (2013) makes some very useful and interesting observations, the most important of which refers to the fact that they (the Magyars) were once part of a wider 'Turkic' world. In the late 9th century when the people known to Western Europe as Magyars or Hungarians entered the land which became the kingdom of Hungary, they were a multiethnic and multilingual confederation. Their supreme leader was Almus, the chief of the Turkic-speaking Onogurs, while the Finno-Ugric Magyars constituted just one of the eight component tribes. Byzantine writers of the 9th and 10th centuries – long accustomed to the Onogur presence along the lower Danube – referred to all members of the confederation without exception as "Turks" and their country as "Turkia." And, obviously, they could not make them out to be anything but "Turks". But that doesn't make them or make them all Turks. And that doesn't necessarily mean the confederation was racially and linguistically ubiquitous or uniform. But there are certainly those who believe that the Uralic languages (i.e. the Finno-Ugric and Samoyed languages) are related to the Turkic, Mongol and Tungus languages. But as Numminen and ‎Nagy (1985) note in "Friends and Relatives: Finnish-Hungarian Cultural Relations", the Magyars are a beautiful, noble and brave people whose affinity to the Finns is still clearly evident in their language. And how can you disagree with that? There is no way I can disagree to that or with them. Jean W. Sedlar goes on to say that in the famous "Covenant of Blood" the Magyar tribe had accepted Almus's son Árpád as the military commander who would lead them into Hungary; and Árpád subsequently became the founder of the Hungarian royal dynasty.

How do populations relate to each other?

Magyar or Hungarian

TO CLOSEST ANCIENT GROUP
1. *Scythian (2.663)
2. *White Croat (2.663)
3. Scythian + White Croat (2.663)
4. Frank + White Croat (5.605)
5. Scythian + Ostrogoth (6.004)
6. Scythian + Frank (6.072)
7. Scythian + Gepid (6.313)
8. Scythian (7.983)
9. Ostrogoth (10.62)
10. White Croat (11.64)
11. Gepid (12.31)
12. Frank (13.31)

BY AUTOSOMAL DNA
1. Slovenian (6.742)
2. Croatian (6.888)
3. East_German (7.070)
4. Austrian (7.142)
5. Moldavian (7.955)
6. Czech (8.900)
7. Serbian (9.584)
8. Ukrainian_Lviv (10.21)

BY MALE DNA
1. Moldavian (9.539)
2. Slovenian (12.32)
3. Czech (13.21)
4. Slovakian (14.68)
5. Romanian (19.64)
6. Austrian (19.86)
7. Ukrainian (19.86)
8. Greek_Thessaly (20.24)

BY FEMALE DNA
1. Czech (7.085)
2. German_Central (7.180)
3. Kargopol_Russian (7.198)
4. Polish (7.592)
5. Ukrainian (7.953)
6. Austrian (8.343)
7. Slovenian (8.612)

Genetic distance measures how close you are to a given modern population.
5 means you are close to this population, 10 means you could fit into this population, and 15 means a related population.

[Wunder-Zeichen]

Onogur-Bulgar Rostov Steppes 770 AD
Genetic Distance: 12.65
Top 99 % match vs all users

The Onogurs, according to MyTrueAncestry, were one of the first Oghuric Turkic tribes that entered the Ponto-Caspian steppes as a result of the migrations set off in Asia.

The Oghurs came to the Emperor in Constantinople and explained they had been driven out of their homeland by the Sabirs who had been attacked by the Avars in Inner Asia.

A union formed between the Onoghurs and Bulgars and it is believed the groups merged forming Old Great Bulgaria in the Mid 7th century.

[Wunder-Zeichen]

Sample: Hungarian ► hungary16
Calculator: K36
Coverage: 146886 SNPs (88.65%)
Central Euro: 100

Indeed, this test or calculator, as any other statistical test (or calculator), is dependent on sample size and on sample composition.

Sample: Hungarian ► HungarianE5
Calculator: K36
Coverage: 46467 SNPs (28.04%)

Italian: 20.42
North Sea: 14.88
Fennoscandian: 12.17
Eastern Euro: 9.42
East Central Euro: 8.15
North Atlantic: 7.85
Central Euro: 5.86
Iberian: 5.33
East Balkan: 4.26
French: 2.71
West Med: 2.59
Volga-Ural: 2.2
West Caucasian: 2.02
Amerindian: 1.58
Near Eastern: 0.55

Sample: Hungarian ► NA15207
Calculator: K36
Coverage: 46453 SNPs (28.04%)

East Central Euro: 16.54
Italian: 12.7
Eastern Euro: 10.4
Iberian: 9.01
North Atlantic: 7.33
East Balkan: 7.29
North Caucasian: 6.06
Central Euro: 5.8
North Sea: 5.45
French: 5.16
Fennoscandian: 4.96
Near Eastern: 3.01
Volga-Ural: 1.88
West Caucasian: 1.3
West Med: 0.9
Amerindian: 0.77
South Asian: 0.75
Armenian: 0.59
East Asian: 0.1

Sample: Hungarian ► HungarianH3
Calculator: K36
Coverage: 46436 SNPs (28.03%)

Eastern Euro: 15.44
East Central Euro: 14.53
North Sea: 13.04
North Atlantic: 12.42
Italian: 9.49
Iberian: 9.38
Fennoscandian: 9.01
East Med: 4.46
West Med: 3.05
East Balkan: 3
Central Euro: 2.16
French: 2
South Central Asian: 0.92
Central African: 0.72
Volga-Ural: 0.38

[Wunder-Zeichen]

How many times do I have to repeat myself? And how many times are we going to repeat this?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post7690078

As Emerging Europe has rightly asked: "What is Hungary doing in the Organisation of Turkic States?"

It's a fair question. As Devin Haas explains, Hungary is leading European engagement with Turkic nations, with its motives rooted in a nationalist narrative that benefits Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán. In what may initially seem like a head-scratching move, Hungary became an OTS observer state in 2018. Since his party, Fidesz, came to power in 2010, Orbán has pursued an "Eastern Opening" policy to promote trade and economic partnerships with Russia, Turkic nations, and South and East Asian countries. And this is where it gets interesting and a bit controversial: Orbán subscribes to a pseudoscientific cultural movement – Hungarian Turanism – contending Hungarians are descended from Turkic Central Asians. He has called Hungarians "Kipchak Turks," referring to a medieval confederation of Turkic nomads in the Eurasian Steppe. Hungary Today has reported Orbán as saying, "Hungarians consider themselves late descendants of Attila, of Hun-Turkic origin, and Hungarian is a relative of Turkic languages."

But it's not a Turkic language, not by any stretch of the imagination.

Here Haas rightly tells us that the Hungarian language is not a Turkic language, and it is worth quoting him at length on this issue in order to understand why and the reasons the article's author had in mind:

Hungary and the Ottoman Empire shared a border for centuries and the Hungarian language picked up some Turkic loan words, but Hungarian is in the Uralic language family and is closer to Finnish and Estonian than any Turkic language. The idea that Huns were Turkic is disputed by most academics. The widely-rejected ethnolinguistic theories shared by Orbán originated in the 18th and 19th centuries. After the World War I, Hungarian Turanism was incorporated into the ideologies of far-right ethnonationalist movements. Many of its proponents synthesised it with fascism and anti-Semitism. The Nazi-allied Arrow Cross party, which ruled Hungary for parts of 1944 and 1945 and killed hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews, embraced the idea of a Turanian-Hungarian master race. Hungary’s Communist regime suppressed Hungarian Turanism, but its fall prompted a revival. The Great Kurultáj, a yearly meeting of Eurasian horse-riding nomads organised by the Hungarian Turan Fund, has been hosted in Bugac, Hungary, since 2008. Both Fidesz and Jobbik, a large right-wing opposition party, promote Turanism. Orbán has referred to Hungary as “Christian Turkish lands”. Péter Balogh, a professor at Eötvös Loránd University in Budapest, characterises Orbán’s approach to Hungarian identity as a fusion of Turanism and the notion that Hungary is a Christian bulwark that portrays the country as “a bridgehead linking East and West.” László Kövér, a founding member of Fidesz and the current speaker of the National Assembly, said, “Hungarians are the westernmost people from the East and will never forget their Eastern brethren.”

This Eurasianist ideological approach, he goes on to note, legitimises Orbán’s frequent clashes with Brussels and his friendly relationships with Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. Orbán’s administration has pursued a foreign policy and trade strategy that aligns with their ideological centering of Hungary as a link between Western liberalism and Eastern illiberalism.

https://emerging-europe.com/news/exp...turkic-states/

Hungarian PM Orban meets Turkic States official for co-op talks

Orban stressed that Hungary, which has an observer status in the organization, has always nurtured deep ties with the Turkic world. The OTS, formerly called the Turkic Council, is an international organization comprising prominent independent Turkic countries that work together to elevate relations and the union among themselves. Its members are Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Türkiye and Uzbekistan. European Union country Hungary, Turkmenistan and the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) have observer status.

https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/...or-co-op-talks

[Mortimer]

You discovered that hot water exists....

[Lemminkäinen]

Comparing early loan words in Finnish and Hungarian I found that the Hungarian language has 600 Turkic loan words. IDK the age of those words. The Finnish has 500 early Germanic loan words alone, early means here that they were adapted before birth of modern language like English and Swedish languages. Unlike modern lian words in Finnish, it is impossibe to get rid of older loan words because they are too firmly incorporated to the language. Swdish lians has substituted by Finnish parallels almost totally.

[Cassidy1234]

Not "fully" Europeans genetically since on average they're around 10% East Eurasians, but they do cluster with other Europeans, yes. The early Hungarians cluster the closes to Turkic peoples like Bakshiris and Volga Tatars. Thus, Hungarians had very close contacts with the Turkic peoples of the Volga region which also includes their old alphabet as well.

[Mingle]

Not "fully" Europeans genetically since on average they're around 10% East Eurasians, but they do cluster with other Europeans, yes. The early Hungarians cluster the closes to Turkic peoples like Bakshiris and Volga Tatars. Thus, Hungarians had very close contacts with the Turkic peoples of the Volga region which also includes their old alphabet as well.

They're not even close to 10% East Eurasian, they have the same East Eurasian percentage as other Central Europeans.

[Blondie]

Not "fully" Europeans genetically since on average they're around 10% East Eurasians, but they do cluster with other Europeans, yes.

How did you get this info? Hungarians located in the middle of european genetic table. I have never seen such hungarian genetic test which got more than 1% east asian.

[Cassidy1234]

They're not even close to 10% East Eurasian, they have the same East Eurasian percentage as other Central Europeans.

U sure?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6151024/