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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueState View Post
    This type of question only arises in degenerate societies where what was past considered as mental illness (gender dysphoria, ultra-marginal) has become the "norm" for the sake of "inclusivity, non-discrimination and equality"
    If you bothered listening to Greer, she is actually very critical of transgender ideology, precisely in part because it resurrects very stereotypical ideas about womanhood/femininity: "I like wearing lipstick and a frock, therefore I must really be a woman".

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    So the old obaachan made a career as an intellectual by paraphrasing in a dumber way what Foucault wrote one century ago... Yeah, very astute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    So the old obaachan made a career as an intellectual by paraphrasing in a dumber way what Foucault wrote one century ago... Yeah, very astute.
    What do you mean?

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    Females have always been naturally feminine, and most men have been naturally masculine through all history, and in all cultures. And that matches with the nature (men are born physically stronger with stronger voices, etc., and females are physically more fragile and delicate)

    That gender roles are something cultural is a bull shit theory from modernity that wants to be imposed by globalists (the world elites who want to destroy western societies, and their useful idiot lackeys).
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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Females have always been naturally feminine, and most men have been naturally masculine through all history, and in all cultures. And that matches with the nature (men are born physically stronger with stronger voices, etc., and females are physically more delicate)

    That gender roles are something cultural is a bull shit theory from modernity that wants to be imposed by globalists (the world elites who want to destroy western societies, and their useful idiot lackeys).
    As I side earlier, biology has some link with behaviour, but it is far from absolute, and there is (or at least ought) no such thing as "men's jobs" and "women's jobs".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    As I side earlier, biology has some link with behaviour, but it is far from absolute, and there is (or at least ought) no such thing as "men's jobs" and "women's jobs".
    There are,not because someone said it,but because something might fit for some,but it might not fit someone else,it's basic logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    What do you mean?
    Sexuality as something articulated by discourses and power relations is Foucault's idea. That there is nothing radical about the transgender movement, that it fails to avoid the essentially conservative idea of the eternal feminine, that the logic of Catholic confession is what secretly looms in the back of the West's obssession with exhibitionism and sexuality: they are all Foucault's ideas.

    There is nothing original or astute Greer. Foucault, a guy from the past century, is still the force to be reckoned with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    Sexuality as something articulated by discourses and power relations is Foucault's idea. That there is nothing radical about the transgender movement, that it fails to avoid the essentially conservative idea of the eternal feminine, that the logic of Catholic confession is what secretly looms in the back of the West's obssession with exhibitionism and sexuality: they are all Foucault's ideas.

    There is nothing original or astute Greer. Foucault, a guy from the past century, is still the force to be reckoned with.
    But it could also be argued that Foucault (or Postmodernism more generally) provides ammunition to the trans movement, because of the notion that objective reality is itself an illusion, i.e. that actual biology and genetics don't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    As I side earlier, biology has some link with behaviour, but it is far from absolute, and there is (or at least ought) no such thing as "men's jobs" and "women's jobs".
    In that case, men should not be the only ones subjected to mandatory military drafts.
    Women off to the frontlines too. No more sexist exemptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenka View Post
    In that case, men should not be the only ones subjected to mandatory military drafts.
    Women off to the frontlines too. No more sexist exemptions.
    IIRC, in Israel there is conscription for women.

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